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[Xazo-Tak]

Toady can't just do what you want now and add more stuff later.
It seems he's trying not hit a dead-end in development where trying to improve something would mess up half the game or add loads of work (Like the first game).
And that requires him to do what he is doing.

How do you think he's going to develop a game for ~30 years dedicating the vast majority of his time to the most sensitive parts, the engine and mechanics?

[sal880612m]

While I agree with what you are saying this topic is ill-conceived as people aren't likely going to listen and you have just given them a place they will feel it is acceptable to complain or defend their complaints. I would seriously consider locking this topic if it starts heading that direction and you sincerely want to stop people from complaining.

[Dyret]

It's the anti-them thread. They get angry about things and vent (although I'm pretty sure IAMTHEORIGINALBACKEREMBRACETHEOLDWAYSANDREPENT-guy was mostly just attention-whoring and being contrarian, why would he else drop that thing on a release everyone were being excited about, when everyone was being excited about it) and then we get angry about them being angry about stuff and vent. It the circle of life... or something. In any event, there is no reason why either thread shouldn't exist. Neither will accomplish anything, but hey, if you need to get things of your chest, why not? It's not like the other thread turned into a shitstorm or anything, at least not at the time of writing.

[Neonivek]

People are allowed to complain Topic Creator.

People should complain.

[DG]

It was inevitable.

[Xazo-Tak]

It was inevitable.

Please Lord Toady, set us up with a rephrasing system during the patching period.

[Flarp]

Other than the one thread in this forum by the guy who's butthurt about z-levels (or something???), is this a problem? Everyone here seems pretty excited about the new version and fairly understanding of the necessary sluggishness of a development process manned by exactly one full-time programmer.

But then again, my complaining about your complaining about other people's complaining is just one recursion level deeper in the infinite stack of poorly-socialized Bay12 forumgoers.

[Dyret]

Other than the one thread in this forum by the guy who's butthurt about z-levels (or something???), is this a problem? Everyone here seems pretty excited about the new version and fairly understanding of the necessary sluggishness of a development process manned by exactly one full-time programmer.

He's probably counting the UI-threads of yore, which had the same 'you're doing it wrong do it my way god damnit' theme.

[Xazo-Tak]

Other than the one thread in this forum by the guy who's butthurt about z-levels (or something???), is this a problem? Everyone here seems pretty excited about the new version and fairly understanding of the necessary sluggishness of a development process manned by exactly one full-time programmer.

But then again, my complaining about your complaining about other people's complaining is just one recursion level deeper in the infinite stack of poorly-socialized Bay12 forumgoers.

Hey, no metadebating.

[palu]

It was inevitable

[inEQUALITY]

It was inevitable

It is terrifying.

[TheCoolSideofthePIllow]

It was inevitable.

Please Lord Toady, set us up with a rephrasing system during the patching period.

Complaining about in the update in your own thread telling people to not complain about the update?

[palu]

It was inevitable.