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[Dirst]

Can you mod more than on syndrome into a material?  Say a buff for one species but a curse for another that will respect their different conditional activations?

[FREE_ACTION] is probably messing it up; you want [CDI:FREE_ACTION]

Do CDIs take time in this version?  It seems all of the ones I mod in are free despite not expliocitly having the Free_Action Token

You can definitely have more than one syndrome on a material, and they will affect the creature (or not) independently.  I did one that had one effect on DWARF:MALE (turned it into a male thingie) and a separate one on DWARF:FEMALE (turning it into a female version of the same thingie).

I'm of the opinion that werecreature bites should work the same way... for now the werebeast appears to be genderless.

[Prudent Viper]

Is there a way for a creature to drop an item upon death in addition to producing a corpse? The [ITEMCORPSE] tag replaces the corpse of a dead enemy. I'd like to supplement it.

[Teneb]

Is there a way for a creature to drop an item upon death in addition to producing a corpse? The [ITEMCORPSE] tag replaces the corpse of a dead enemy. I'd like to supplement it.

There is the extra butcher object tag, I forget the syntax right now. What it'll do is cause an object to spawn when a specified body part is butchered. No way to spawn both a corpse and object without butchering though, if that is what you are asking.

[ArKFallen]

I'm of the opinion that werecreature bites should work the same way... for now the werebeast appears to be genderless.

Going werebeast temporarily stops the birth countdown timer (or it did in 34.11) because of genderlessness. Imagine what would happen if it didn't and it hit 0 on the full moon...

Is there a way for a creature to drop an item upon death in addition to producing a corpse? The [ITEMCORPSE] tag replaces the corpse of a dead enemy. I'd like to supplement it.

There is the extra butcher object tag, I forget the syntax right now. What it'll do is cause an object to spawn when a specified body part is butchered. No way to spawn both a corpse and object without butchering though, if that is what you are asking.

If you do go the way Deathsword mentions you can look up gizzard in the raws for an example.

[Prudent Viper]

Is there a way for a creature to drop an item upon death in addition to producing a corpse? The [ITEMCORPSE] tag replaces the corpse of a dead enemy. I'd like to supplement it.

There is the extra butcher object tag, I forget the syntax right now. What it'll do is cause an object to spawn when a specified body part is butchered. No way to spawn both a corpse and object without butchering though, if that is what you are asking.

That's perfect, thanks. You got the tag exactly right too, it is [EXTRA_BUTCHER_OBJECT].
I'll go look at gizzard stones now, cheers for that Ark.

[FallenAngel]

Quick question - how exactly do I make a creature have bone and only bone? I'm pretty sure I know, but I can't remember right now.
I've gotten a creature down to skin and bones that bleed nothing but still bleed somehow.

[pisskop]

[SELECT_TISSUE_LAYER:ALL]
[SET_TL_GROUP:BY_TYPE:ALL:BONE]

[SELECT_MATERIAL:BONE]
[TL_VASCULAR:0]

Remove the blood material as well.  My 'bonedaddies' just shredded each other, yet are completely alive, though much more resilient to attack.

[heydude6]

Is it possible to create custom vomit, like one with a syndrome?

[Illogical_Blox]

If a two-headed creature gets its head cut off, will it instantly die or survive?

[scamtank]

If both heads have brains? It'll live.

However, if your creature is an abomination that has multiple upper or lower bodies, cleaving any one of them in half nets instant death. That's the exception.

[Suds Zimmerman]

So I've noticed something upsetting about the [IMMOBILE] tag. Namely, creatures who have it won't move, just as intended, but they also won't take any sort of offensive action whatsoever. They're completely passive no matter the circumstances, happily taking all manner of abuse despite a plethora of available attacks which are fully usable when under direct player control.

My question is, does anybody have any workarounds? To either make a creature with [IMMOBILE] attack or to render a creature immobile by some other means? I use these sorts of turret-like creatures in my mod, and this new kink in DF2014 is the only thing keeping me from porting it.

[Baffler]

I've heard they can still use interactions, but I'd confirm it with someone more knowledgeable.

[gman8181]

So I've just recently become interested in modding and was making an attempt at creating a new playable hive like civ race.

I'd like to make the race have different castes similar to antmen with one caste of females being regular intelligent civ members capable of giving birth to numerous other castes, one of which would include another female caste with a pet tag and no breeding that could be both milked and butchered for hides, meat, etc.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I read that pets have a hardcoded pop limit on site; being limited to 50 if I recall correctly.

My primary question was that if I included the aforementioned pet caste, what would happen if that population limit was reached?

Would the breeding females discontinue producing offspring after the pet limit was reached?
Would they just stop producing that particular variety of pet offspring?
Would the regular site population limit supersede the pet limit and allow for continued creation of the pet caste?

I'm hoping it's the latter and that the pet breeding limitation would not impact the intelligent breeding civ member's ability to continue producing offspring because the pet breeding limitation only effects female breeding pets (or at least that's my speculation from what I've read). So the technical hard coded pet limit would not be applicable to these particular pets being that they are born from an intelligent civ member.

I also was thinking of making them egg laying but I'm not certain as to the way that functions with intelligent civ members? Would the intelligent breeding civ caste automatically go to nest boxes to lay eggs or would they have to be ordered to go there somehow. Would non fertilized eggs be harvestable for food? I don't know how that would work at all. I guess an easier solution for that would be to make an unintelligent pet female caste capable of producing both intelligent civ members and unintelligent pet offspring so it could be ordered to go to nest boxes but would that caste then stop producing offspring of all varieties once the limit of unintelligent pets was reached?

I might alternatively go with the young offspring having an "egg" form that's immobile but later develops into a mobile "larva" and then a full fledged adult but then that raises the question for me as to whether or not I'd have to be careful about the location of the intelligent breeding female so I can keep the larvae organized in a certain room similar to real life hive type communities. Also what happens if she gives birth to multiple offspring one on top of another and then they're all stuck lying on top of one another unable to move? Unfortunately I'm not even sure how the immobile "egg" baby form would work with the mother seeking out her offspring. Can she carry a bunch of immobile "egg" babies around? I assume burrows would be the best way to keep the infants in a "hatchery". Are children automatically assigned to the same burrow as the mother (sorry I could probably figure that out in a test fort if I had more spare time)? I'm not sure I want to have to manually remove infants from burrows once they reach adults if I have a large population.

I'm assuming here the above would even be possible using some type of transformation interaction based on age but I don't know how it works. Can I have "larvae" differentiate into different castes similar to the population ratios with breeding to avoid having to create multiple different "larva" castes for each of the different adult castes? I'm willing to figure that out on my own assuming it's possible but having someone tell me it's possible first would be nice before I attempt to look into it.

Sorry for the wall of text. I'd appreciate it if anyone could answer even segments of my post so I can piece things together for myself.

Also should this stuff go into it's own separate thread? I don't want to keep clogging up this thread with giant posts but neither do I want to create a new thread if it's not particularly necessary.

Edit: Yeah spoilers, my bad.

[ArKFallen]

Sorry for the wall of text. I'd appreciate it if anyone could answer even segments of my post so I can piece things together for myself.

Also should this stuff go into it's own separate thread? I don't want to keep clogging up this thread with giant posts but neither do I want to create a new thread if it's not particularly necessary.

To prevent text-walls use 'spoiler=topicname' to condense and categorize.

Spoiler: Pregnancy Question (click to show/hide)

I read that pets have a hardcoded pop limit on site; being limited to 50 if I recall correctly.

My primary question was that if I included the aforementioned pet caste, what would happen if that population limit was reached?

Would the breeding females discontinue producing offspring after the pet limit was reached?
Would they just stop producing that particular variety of pet offspring?
Would the regular site population limit supersede the pet limit and allow for continued creation of the pet caste?

I'm hoping it's the latter and that the pet breeding limitation would not impact the intelligent breeding civ member's ability to continue producing offspring because the pet breeding limitation only effects female breeding pets (or at least that's my speculation from what I've read). So the technical hard coded pet limit would not be applicable to these particular pets being that they are born from an intelligent civ member.

I'm going to have to assume the last sentence is correct based on the way Toady has coded dwarf fortress. Animals have a regular 'get-pregnant' routine, when successful is followed by a 'pregnancy-timer', which pops out a random caste based on pop_ratio at 0. As long as the pregnant creature isn't a pet it shouldn't be affected.

Spoiler: Egg Laying and Immobiles (click to show/hide)

I also was thinking of making them egg laying but I'm not certain as to the way that functions with intelligent civ members? Would the intelligent breeding civ caste automatically go to nest boxes to lay eggs or would they have to be ordered to go there somehow. Would non fertilized eggs be harvestable for food? I don't know how that would work at all. I guess an easier solution for that would be to make an unintelligent pet female caste capable of producing both intelligent civ members and unintelligent pet offspring so it could be ordered to go to nest boxes but would that caste then stop producing offspring of all varieties once the limit of unintelligent pets was reached?

All eggs are food always (unless forbidden). Forbid them until it is obvious whether they are fertilized or not. Greiger is our resident civ egg-laying specialist.

While I haven't tested in .40 yet in previous versions civ egglayers seem to be exempt from the must always be on the nest rule.

The mothers will however go back to their nest box instead of idling, and all females of the race will claim a nest box, not just the married ones.  Unless something has changed with reproduction only the married ones can lay an egg that will hatch.

Source: at least a year of playing a draconic egglaying fortress race.

Check more of his posts in Modding for more info.

Militia dwarves can carry their babies while armed and/or hauling. Not a problem but they are still waited down by them. The only way to move independent (read:not babies, also can be born a child) IMMOBILEs though is to pasture them.

I'm assuming here the above would even be possible using some type of transformation interaction based on age but I don't know how it works. Can I have "larvae" differentiate into different castes similar to the population ratios with breeding to avoid having to create multiple different "larva" castes for each of the different adult castes? I'm willing to figure that out on my own assuming it's possible but having someone tell me it's possible first would be nice before I attempt to look into it.

Big problem is that you can't specify by age. There are possible weird roundabout workarounds, but even thinking about them twists my brain into knots.
Here's my attempt at answering your second sentence.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

1. Easiest way I can think of is to make Larva be the most likely caste that naturally has a permanent transformation interaction that takes the whole child-cycle to actually transform. And because it is the most likely, most will be born Larva
Unintended Side Effect: Almost every migrant (and even the starting seven) will have to go through this stage on arrival. Everyone immune to further transformations.

2. Make Larva nearly non-existant with pop_ratio and give every other caste a one use interaction (lasts forever but the transformation doesn't) that transforms them into a larva until the end of the child cycle.
Unintended Side Effect: Same as above minus the second sentence.

I recommend just renaming the general_child_name tag to use larva (or some variation thereof). Or use egg laying.

[Dirst]

Hi everyone, I'm having an issue with getting a syndrome-induced-interaction to work.

For background, there are a bunch of special minerals in this mod which boil away upon mining and inflict specific syndromes.  Upon contracting the syndrome, the Dwarf is supposed to fire off one of two interactions (actually he's supposed to try both, but only one can work).  The interactions then get eaten by modtools/interaction-trigger to run scripts.

The inhaled syndrome works, and I even see it listed under Dwarf Therapist as a "buff" but the interactions don't go off.  This is true whether the interaction-trigger is in place or not.  The script also works if it's run directly from the DFHack console, so I'm sure it's the interactions.

Spoiler: inorganic snippet (click to show/hide)

[INORGANIC:LIVING DOLOMITE]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:TESB_TEMPLATE]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:living dolomite]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:LIQUID:stirring dolomite]
[STATE_NAME_ADJ:GAS:awakening dolomite]
[DISPLAY_COLOR:7:7:1]
[TILE:'`']
[REACTION_CLASS:FLUX]
[ENVIRONMENT_SPEC:DOLOMITE:CLUSTER_ONE:100]
[ENVIRONMENT_SPEC:HIDDEN BLACK OPAL:CLUSTER_ONE:100]
[MATERIAL_VALUE:250][IS_STONE][SPECIAL]
[MELTING_POINT:8000]
[BOILING_POINT:9910]
[SOLID_DENSITY:2850]
[SYNDROME]
   [SYN_NAME:wake dolomite]
   [SYN_INHALED][SYN_INGESTED]
   [SYN_AFFECTED_CREATURE:DWARF:ALL]
   [CE_FLASH_TILE:TILE:42:7:7:1:FREQUENCY:100:100:START:0:END:1200] For troubleshooting.  I see the flashing.
   [CE_CAN_DO_INTERACTION:START:0:END:20]
       [CDI:INTERACTION:ANGER_DOLOMITE] Tries this first.  Can't succeed if Dwarf is affected by "DOLOMITE_TRIBUTE".
      [CDI:TARGET:A:SELF_ONLY]
      [CDI:VERB:angers living dolomite:angers living dolomite:angers living dolomite] One of the interaction-triggers watches for this verb.
      [CDI:FREE_ACTION]
      [CDI:WAIT_PERIOD:20]
   [CE_CAN_DO_INTERACTION:START:5:END:20] Tries this second.  Can't succeed if the first succeeded.
       [CDI:INTERACTION:AWAKEN_DOLOMITE]
      [CDI:TARGET:A:SELF_ONLY]
      [CDI:VERB:awakens living dolomite:awakens living dolomite:awakens living dolomite] Another interaction-trigger watched for this verb.
      [CDI:FREE_ACTION]
      [CDI:WAIT_PERIOD:20]

Spoiler: interaction snippet (click to show/hide)

[INTERACTION:AWAKEN_DOLOMITE]
   [I_SOURCE:CREATURE_ACTION]
   [I_TARGET:A:CREATURE]
      [IT_LOCATION:CONTEXT_CREATURE]
      [IT_MANUAL_INPUT:self]
      [IT_AFFECTED_CREATURE:DWARF:ALL]
      [IT_CANNOT_HAVE_SYNDROME_CLASS:TESB_ANGER]  Tag that prevents the second (friendlier) interaction from working.
   [I_EFFECT:ADD_SYNDROME]
      [IE_TARGET:A]
      [IE_IMMEDIATE]
      [SYNDROME]
         [SYN_NAME:awakening dolomite]

[INTERACTION:ANGER_DOLOMITE]
   [I_SOURCE:CREATURE_ACTION]
   [I_TARGET:A:CREATURE]
      [IT_LOCATION:CONTEXT_CREATURE]
      [IT_MANUAL_INPUT:self]
      [IT_AFFECTED_CREATURE:DWARF:ALL]
      [IT_CANNOT_HAVE_SYNDROME_CLASS:DOLOMITE_TRIBUTE] Tag that prevents the first (hostile) interaction from working.
   [I_EFFECT:ADD_SYNDROME]
      [IE_TARGET:A]
      [IE_IMMEDIATE]
      [SYNDROME]
         [SYN_NAME:anger dolomite]
         [SYN_CLASS:TESB_ANGER] Add the tag to prevent both interactions from firing.
         [CE_MATERIAL_FORCE_MULTIPLIER:MAT_MULT:INORGANIC:SLADE:2:1:START:0:END:20] Benign effect to give the syndrome a duration.

Spoiler: interaction-trigger snippet (click to show/hide)

modtools/interaction-trigger -onAttackStr "awakens living dolomite" -suppressAttack -suppressDefend -command [ tesb-spawn -caste DOLOMITE -miner \\ATTACKER_ID -location [ \\LOCATION ] -friendly ]

modtools/interaction-trigger -onAttackStr "angers living dolomite" -suppressAttack -suppressDefend -command [ tesb-spawn -caste DOLOMITE -miner \\ATTACKER_ID -location [ \\LOCATION ] ]

The wiki says that a can-do-interaction with no usage hint will be used on any valid target, but that doesn't seem to be the case.  Anyone know how to force a creature to use an interaction?