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[Spehss _]

So, will adding the    [ITEM_THIEF] token to all the entities make them go to war with you if you kill the thieves or does thief killing have nothing to do with wars? I am curious.

[ITEM_THIEF] should automatically make any entities with the tag hostile to others, like goblins or kobolds.

[Knight Otu]

If I wanted to transfer a modded creature from 2012 to 2014 what would I need to change? If someone could point me in the right direction that be great.

Some things from this version are
- Gaits, which replace the earlier [SPEED:x] and [SWIM_SPEED:x] tags.  Movement is generally more complex, and there are gaits with different settings for walking, flying, climbing, swimming, etc.  There's a table in the /raw/object/notes/ of different numbers corresponding to a speed.
- Attacks now have timings in [ATTACK_PREPARE_AND_RECOVER:x:x].  You don't really need them since it naturally defaults to 3:3, but can still be important in attacks like kicks, which have slower timings (4:4).  There are also allowance and penalty flags for multiattacking (generally kicks and tailslaps are bad multiattack, hydrae and ettins have no-penalty multiattacking bites)
- Necks are now an actual thing.  Without them the THROAT and NECK (actually upper spine) parts don't connect.  If you have a [BODY:HUMANOID] creature, generally it's changed to [BODY:HUMANOID_NECK], and likewise for quadrupeds and so on.
- Low light vision for underground creatures like dwarves.
- Odours.  Not really necessary since the tags have default values, but humans and dwarves have poor sense of smell.  Inorganic creatures generally have no detectable smell.

Also, there are CANNOT_JUMP and CANNOT_CLIMB (this one is only needed if the creature has grasps - no creature in the stock raws uses this) to prevent a creature from jumping/climbing or STANCE_CLIMBER to allow a creature to climb with its feet/stance parts, VISION_ARC (in the format [VISION_ARC:150:310], binocular vision, non-binocular vision), MULTIPART_FULL_VISION which (probably) causes the creature to have a full vision arc while it has multiple heads,  NO_VEGETATION_PERTURB, which probably causes the creature to leave no tracks on vegetation, and several other new tags. You should look through the Creature token wiki page for details.

[Untrustedlife]

So, will adding the    [ITEM_THIEF] token to all the entities make them go to war with you if you kill the thieves or does thief killing have nothing to do with wars? I am curious.

[ITEM_THIEF] should automatically make any entities with the tag hostile to others, like goblins or kobolds.

Aww, ok.

I hope that changes eventually, its unrealistic for there to not exist any human/elven/dwarven thieves


edit:

That doesnt seem to be the case, i gave every entity this tag and im still only at war innately with my halflings and the goblins, the rest are peaceful.

The babysntacher tag makes them innately aggressive however (my halflings).

Observe:

[Mephansteras]

I've started looking at creature variations and the way VBASE does things, but I can't quite figure out if something I want to do is possible.

Namely, I want to swap out the [MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:TAN_MAT:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:LEATHER] tag from the SKIN_TEMPLATE to something else ( like LEATHER_THICK )

Anyone know if that's possible? Would something like this work?

[CV_CONVERT_TAG][CVCT_MASTER:MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT][CVCT_TARGET:LEATHER][CVCT_REPLACEMENT:LEATHER_THICK]


Sadly, I'm not going to be able to do any tests until probably Thursday, but I do have lunch breaks where I can work on raws.

Should work.

You could also make it much more... extensible by making it go like this:

[CV_CONVERT_TAG][CVCT_MASTER:MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT][CVCT_TARGET:!ARG1][CVCT_REPLACEMENT:!ARG2]

And then you can use the creature variation (let's call it REPLACE_MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT) like this:

[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:REPLACE_MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:LEATHER:LEATHER_THICK]

Ah. Nifty! Thanks!

[TomiTapio]

If I wanted to transfer a modded creature from 2012 to 2014 what would I need to change? If someone could point me in the right direction that be great.

Here's an annotated selection of GAITs, based on real-world animal speeds, to help you tune your creatures:
"DF_" prefix indicates vanilla DF as data source.

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170 kph white-throated needle-tailed swift
145-160 kph spine-tailed swift
153 frigate bird
140 kph horse-fly-insect?
135 swan_best FLIGHT
109 sailfish swim
98 antelope_best burst, hummingbird, cheetah_burst
900:300:200:100:1900:2900] 87+ kph horse burst?, ostrich burst, my_unicorn, pigeon_best_flight
900:327:218:109:1900:2900] 80 kph tiger & lion burst, cougar_burst, gazelle_burst, wildebeest_best, my_faedog, DUCKFLIGHT, biggest_bird_bustard(6-18-21kg), my_pegasus_flight, pigeon_avg, marlin swim
900:345:230:115:1900:2900] 76 kph quarter horse burst, eagle_best,
900:366:244:122:1900:2900] 72 kph elk burst, goose_sus, hare
900:375:250:125:1900:2900] 70 kph horse burst?, wolf_burst, my_direwolf, tuna
900:381:254:127:1900:2900] 69 kph coyote, greyhound_max, big kangaroo, shark_best_swim
900:387:258:129:1900:2900] 68 kph dolphin burst, Banteng-cattle hybrid(fastest bovine) burst,
900:393:262:131:1900:2900] 67 kph vulture_glide
900:411:274:137:1900:2900] 64 kph ostrich run, zebra, ass, hyena, fox, camel burst, swordfish
900:432:288:144:1900:2900] 61 kph pheasant_flight,
900:438:292:146:1900:2900] 60 kph giraffe_burst
900:447:298:149:1900:2900] 59 kph dog, lion, bat_flight, eagle_flight
900:471:314:157:1900:2900] 56 kph llama, jackal, tiger, rabbit?, bear?, polarbear_burst, my_ibex
900:480:320:160:1900:2900] 55 kph moose, rhino_burst
53 tiger shark
900:507:338:169:1900:2900] 52 kph T-Rex one estimate
900:519:346:173:1900:2900] 51 kph reindeer
900:528:352:176:1900:2900] 50 kph giraffe_sustained
900:549:366:183:1900:2900] 48 kph waterbuffalo, my bulldog, _deer_, warthog, wolverine, _bear_, cat, lynx, horse gallop (for 3km, not burst), eagle/crow sus, gazelle_sus, barracuda
900:585:390:195:1900:2900] 45 kph human_best_burst, my_dragon_flight
900:612:408:204:1900:2900] 43 kph DF_rabbit, my_guineafowl, my_grizzly
900:627:418:209:1900:2900] 42 kph greater roadrunner (who can still fly)
900:657:438:219:1900:2900] 40 kph donkey, turkey, elephant_tinyburst, gorilla_tinyburst, wombat, camel_sustained_run, biglizard_burst, duck_flight_relaxed, eland_slowestantilope_b
900:675:450:225:1900:2900] 39 kph DF_human burst
900:683:468:237:1900:2900] 37 kph
900:687:474:244:1900:2900] 36 kph gentoo penguin swim,
900:691:482:251:1900:2900] 35 kph medium_dinosaur
900:695:489:258:1900:2900] 34 kph minke whale burst swim,
900:699:497:266:1900:2900] 33 kph
900:703:505:274:1900:2900] 32 kph crippled_coyote, crocodile swim, hippo run, bighorn sheep, blue whale, penguin swim, my_dragon_run, my_spaniel
900:707:513:283:1900:2900] 31 kph DF_cavy_rodent, yak?
900:711:521:293:1900:2900] 30 kph DF_dwarf, my_goblin, alpaca?
900:714:529:303:1900:2900] 29 kph amphibian_best run, rabbit, house sparrow flight (quite slow),
900:722:545:325:1900:2900] 27 kph cow?
900:726:553:338:1900:2900] 26 kph jerboa bouncy rat,
900:730:561:351:1900:2900] 25 kph sheep, 3ton_elephant_burst_or_sustained, my_crundle, my_demon
900:734:568:366:1900:2900] 24 kph raccoon_burst, capybara, manatee_swim, sea turtle, honeybee,
900:738:576:382:1900:2900] 23 kph [wildfire spreads],
900:742:584:399:1900:2900] 22 kph my_cavy, eland_sustain, Beluga whale swim
900:746:592:418:1900:2900] 21 kph
900:750:600:439:1900:2900] 20 kph big_elephant burst, penguin_swim, dugong_swim_burst,
1161:938:716:462:2200:3300] 19 kph goat, squirrel, roadrunner_run, turkey run, snake_best_burst, butterfly_migration_average,
1422:1127:831:488:2500:3700] 18 kph DF_pig, T-Rex walk upper estimate, 18.7 human marathon winners,
1683:1315:947:516:2800:4100] 17 kph, crocodile burst 11-14-17-18,
1945:1504:1062:548:3100:4500] 16 kph horse lope gait, elephant seal swim, ghost crab walk,
2206:1692:1178:585:3400:4900] 15 kph dolphin cruise, my_mummy
2467:1880:1294:627:3700:5300] 14 kph chicken?, humpback whale cruise,
2728:2069:1409:675:4000:5700] 13 kph otter swim,
2990:2257:1525:731:4300:6100] 12 kph my_iron_statue
3251:2446:1640:798:4600:6500] 11 kph snake_best
3512:2634:1756:878:4900:6900] 10 kph big_elephant sustain,
4122:3330:2541:975:5411:7233] 9 kph  8.8 average female marathoner sustain,
4732:4026:3327:1097:5922:7567] 8 kph duck walk, American woodcock flight is world's slowest, wolf_travelspeed
5341:4723:4112:1254:6433:7900] 7 kph 6.7 fastest beetle
6561:6115:5683:1755:7456:8567] 5 kph cockroach, raccoon swim
1.77 spider
9000:8900:8825:8775:9500:9900] 1 kph
0.24 sloth

kit: pick one of top 3
   [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_FLYING_GAITS:900:691:482:251:1900:2900] 35 kph
   [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_WALKING_GAITS:900:675:450:225:1900:2900] 39 kph
   [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_BIPED_GAITS:900:675:450:225:1900:2900] 39 kph BIPED
   
   [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_SWIMMING_GAITS:9000:8900:8825:8775:9500:9900] 1 kph   [SWIMS_INNATE]   
   [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_CRAWLING_GAITS:9000:8900:8825:8775:9500:9900] 1 kph
   [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_CLIMBING_GAITS:9000:8900:8825:8775:9500:9900] 1 kph   [STANCE_CLIMBER][NATURAL_SKILL:CLIMBING:15]
   
lizard:[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_WALK_CRAWL_GAITS:9000:8900:8825:8775:9500:9900] 1 kph, NO DATA

vanilla human:
   [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_BIPED_GAITS:900:675:450:225:1900:2900] 39 kph BIPED
   [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_CLIMBING_GAITS:6561:6115:5683:1755:7456:8567] 5 kph, NO DATA
   [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_SWIMMING_GAITS:5341:4723:4112:1254:6433:7900] 7 kph
   [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_CRAWLING_GAITS:2990:2257:1525:731:4300:6100] 12 kph, NO DATA
   
worm:
   [GAIT:WALK:Crawl:2900:NO_BUILD_UP:0:LAYERS_SLOW:STRENGTH:AGILITY]
   [GAIT:CRAWL:Crawl:2900:NO_BUILD_UP:0:LAYERS_SLOW:STRENGTH:AGILITY]

monkey:
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_WALKING_GAITS:900:711:521:293:1900:2900] 30 kph, NO DATA
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_CLIMBING_GAITS:2206:1692:1178:585:3400:4900] 15 kph, NO DATA
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_SWIMMING_GAITS:6561:6115:5683:1755:7456:8567] 5 kph, NO DATA
[APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_CRAWLING_GAITS:6561:6115:5683:1755:7456:8567] 5 kph, NO DATA
[NATURAL_SKILL:CLIMBING:15]
[SWIMS_INNATE]   

big python:
   [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_WALK_CRAWL_GAITS:9000:8900:8825:8775:9500:9900] 1 kph, NO DATA
   [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_CRAWLING_GAITS:9000:8900:8825:8775:9500:9900] 1 kph, NO DATA
   [APPLY_CREATURE_VARIATION:STANDARD_SWIMMING_GAITS:9000:8900:8825:8775:9500:9900] 1 kph, NO DATA [SWIMS_INNATE]

Yes I have have tuned animals speeds and sizes a lot in the OldGenesis mod.
And given some wildlife Vocalizations, for good adventurer fun:

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[HelloLion]

So, will adding the    [ITEM_THIEF] token to all the entities make them go to war with you if you kill the thieves or does thief killing have nothing to do with wars? I am curious.

[ITEM_THIEF] should automatically make any entities with the tag hostile to others, like goblins or kobolds.

Aww, ok.

I hope that changes eventually, its unrealistic for there to not exist any human/elven/dwarven thieves


edit:

That doesnt seem to be the case, i gave every entity this tag and im still only at war innately with my halflings and the goblins, the rest are peaceful.

The babysntacher tag makes them innately aggressive however (my halflings).

Observe:

I believe that races who have the [ITEM_THIEF] tag are cool with other races that have the [ITEM_THIEF] tag. Try giving every race but yours [ITEM_THIEF] maybe?

[SeelenJägerTee]

I want a reaction to produce a philosophers stone, that is used up in other alchemy reaction.
How do I define a stone type for it that does not appear ingame unless crafted.
I am aware that traders will bring it, probably nothing that can be done about this, am I right? However I don't want that it spawns as a layer or vein stone in the map.

Also what personality trait makes a creature more likely to not throw a tantrum.
(If you have a species of non-alcoholics one very important source of happy thoughts is not available, so I'd like to increase their resistance to tantruming somewhat.)

[Dirst]

I want a reaction to produce a philosophers stone, that is used up in other alchemy reaction.
How do I define a stone type for it that does not appear ingame unless crafted.
I am aware that traders will bring it, probably nothing that can be done about this, am I right? However I don't want that it spawns as a layer or vein stone in the map.

Just don't include any environment tags for the stone and it won't spawn anywhere in the ground.  If you add a [SPECIAL] tag, it also won't show up in anyone's preferences.

Now, if the civ has access to a reaction that produces Philosopher Stones, then they'll probably show up in caravans.  Annoyingly, you might even see crafts made from Philosopher Stone material.

[WillowLuman]

Are plant species distributed like animals during worldgen? Or does every kind of plant with a certain biome tag occur in every instance of that biome? I'd like to grow plants from imported seeds in greenhouses by adding the relevant biome tags after worldgen, but not if that makes wild versions start to grow everywhere.

[TomiTapio]

Are plant species distributed like animals during worldgen? Or does every kind of plant with a certain biome tag occur in every instance of that biome? I'd like to grow plants from imported seeds in greenhouses by adding the relevant biome tags after worldgen, but not if that makes wild versions start to grow everywhere.

I think your embark's plants & trees are decided and locked in the moment you enter that embark. I think.

[WillowLuman]

But what about future embarks?

[DwarfVsObsidianWall]

How do I add new labors?

[TomiTapio]

How do I add new labors?

You don't. Those are hardcoded (means: in the executable).
See http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Labor
and re-use the following skills: alchemy, pressing, shearing, pump operating, fish dissection, animal care, animal dissection, potash making, lye making.
Exact spelling of the labor tokens are at http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Labor_token

[Vherid]

Now when it comes to making nobles for a new race, looking at the other races, you have active nobles such as brokers, hammerers, etc. ones that actually appear on your area and are set-able. Then you have I guess what I would refer to as lore nobles, things such as generals and etc that would appear in the world history but not in the actual game necessarily. Basically would it be fine to pretty much just ignore all of the lore nobles and only worry about adding active nobles?

[SeelenJägerTee]

I want a reaction to produce a philosophers stone, that is used up in other alchemy reaction.
How do I define a stone type for it that does not appear ingame unless crafted.
I am aware that traders will bring it, probably nothing that can be done about this, am I right? However I don't want that it spawns as a layer or vein stone in the map.

Just don't include any environment tags for the stone and it won't spawn anywhere in the ground.  If you add a [SPECIAL] tag, it also won't show up in anyone's preferences.

Now, if the civ has access to a reaction that produces Philosopher Stones, then they'll probably show up in caravans. [...]

Ah that's nice to know. Actually I wouldn't mind if someone liked the stone "for it's perfection", however I WOULD mind if a noble demanded his furniture made of this stuff. So it's definitely good to know I can shut this down with the special tag.

[...]  Annoyingly, you might even see crafts made from Philosopher Stone material.

Well that's annoying. Is there any workaround to that?
Create an intermediate stone that instantly melts and leaves back the philosophers stone? Anything (non DF-Hack related)?