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[Putnam]

Skulls have been made much bigger now, going from [DEFAULT_RELSIZE:20] in .34.11 to [DEFAULT_RELSIZE:200] in .40.x

It also now has the PREVENTS_PARENT_COLLAPSE token and the CONNECTOR token.

Yeah, because otherwise skulls would be pulped at the slightest punch.

[Mictlantecuhtli]

PREVENTS_PARENT_COLLAPSE is interesting to me. It stops the bodypart itself from pulpification?

[Spehss _]

PREVENTS_PARENT_COLLAPSE is interesting to me. It stops the bodypart itself from pulpification?

Heads can be pulped if they are targeted. I tested in arena by taking control of a human hammerman with a silver maul. Bash the head hard enough and it can explode into gore. PREVENTS_PARENT_COLLAPSE probably makes it so that parts connected to the part with the tag can be pulped independently of the "parent" part.

So, for example, attacking a creature's eye with a silver maul will pulp the eye, but not the entire head. I know, I tried. Also tried pulping the tongue, nose, and ear. Science concludes that I can wield a huge hammer with surgeon's precision in order to smash someone's eye into paste without harming the rest of the skull.

[Dirst]

PREVENTS_PARENT_COLLAPSE is interesting to me. It stops the bodypart itself from pulpification?

Heads can be pulped if they are targeted. I tested in arena by taking control of a human hammerman with a silver maul. Bash the head hard enough and it can explode into gore. PREVENTS_PARENT_COLLAPSE probably makes it so that parts connected to the part with the tag can be pulped independently of the "parent" part.

So, for example, attacking a creature's eye with a silver maul will pulp the eye, but not the entire head. I know, I tried. Also tried pulping the tongue, nose, and ear. Science concludes that I can wield a huge hammer with surgeon's precision in order to smash someone's eye into paste without harming the rest of the skull.

In July of 2014, Spehss_ became Chief Medical Dwarf of the Bay 12 Forums.

[FallenAngel]

After repeated punches to the face, I can surely say skulls aren't tissue paper anymore.
They're more like a hardcover book.
It takes a while, but you can totally make a head explode into gore with a hard enough punch - if your foe is not conscious, use the harder, but slower, attacks.

[Roses]

Question about bodies (not limited to the new version);

Say I give an animal four legs, each with the [CATEGORY:LEG], and then give them

Code: [Select]

[BP:HOOF:hoof:hooves][CON_CAT:LEG][STANCE][CATEGORY:HOOF]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:120]
Will they have a hoof on each leg, or will it only be one hoof? Will the game automatically number/name them, or will they all just be listed as 'hoof'?

[TheDorf]

Uhh... How do I go about creating a unicorn with a steel horn?

Looking at the tissue_template_default, I think that I'll just have to somewhere in the unicorn file specify that the material of the horn is to be steel, and then the tissue_template will grab that value and use it for the tissue?

How would I go about specifying that the horn should be steel?

What I tried so far is to simply change
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:HORN:HORN_TEMPLATE]
to
[USE_MATERIAL:HORN:INORGANIC:HORN_UNICORN]

But when I killed and butchered the unicorn in the arena, it had no horn. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Putnam]

Aha! Found this tidbit in the deer raws:

[VISION_ARC:50:310]  This is the binocular and non-binocular vision arcs.

Basically, the first number is the vision (I assume in degrees) cone size of the creature one one-eyed, second number when two-eyed.

[Evaris]

Quick question: is it possible to make a reaction which requires a bucket with water in it, which would also have dwarves fill buckets with said water?  Sorry figured I'd ask quick.

[Xangi]

Question about bodies (not limited to the new version);

Say I give an animal four legs, each with the [CATEGORY:LEG], and then give them

Code: [Select]

[BP:HOOF:hoof:hooves][CON_CAT:LEG][STANCE][CATEGORY:HOOF]
[DEFAULT_RELSIZE:120]
Will they have a hoof on each leg, or will it only be one hoof? Will the game automatically number/name them, or will they all just be listed as 'hoof'?

Should be a hoof on each leg, but they won't be named IIRC.

Aha! Found this tidbit in the deer raws:

[VISION_ARC:50:310]  This is the binocular and non-binocular vision arcs.

Basically, the first number is the vision (I assume in degrees) cone size of the creature one one-eyed, second number when two-eyed.

First number is the "red zone" when sneaking, second is the "yellow zone"

Uhh... How do I go about creating a unicorn with a steel horn?

Looking at the tissue_template_default, I think that I'll just have to somewhere in the unicorn file specify that the material of the horn is to be steel, and then the tissue_template will grab that value and use it for the tissue?

How would I go about specifying that the horn should be steel?

What I tried so far is to simply change
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:HORN:HORN_TEMPLATE]
to
[USE_MATERIAL:HORN:INORGANIC:HORN_UNICORN]

But when I killed and butchered the unicorn in the arena, it had no horn. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:HORN:<a tissue made of steel you define>]
Here's an example tissue:
   [TISSUE:BLADE]
      [TISSUE_NAME:metal:NP]
      [TISSUE_MATERIAL:INORGANIC:STEEL]
      [RELATIVE_THICKNESS:1]
      [HEALING_RATE:200]
      [CONNECTS]
      [TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER]

[Spehss _]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

PREVENTS_PARENT_COLLAPSE is interesting to me. It stops the bodypart itself from pulpification?

Heads can be pulped if they are targeted. I tested in arena by taking control of a human hammerman with a silver maul. Bash the head hard enough and it can explode into gore. PREVENTS_PARENT_COLLAPSE probably makes it so that parts connected to the part with the tag can be pulped independently of the "parent" part.

So, for example, attacking a creature's eye with a silver maul will pulp the eye, but not the entire head. I know, I tried. Also tried pulping the tongue, nose, and ear. Science concludes that I can wield a huge hammer with surgeon's precision in order to smash someone's eye into paste without harming the rest of the skull.

In July of 2014, Spehss_ became Chief Medical Dwarf of the Bay 12 Forums.

Uh, feel free to test science out yourselves guys, I'm not 100% certain that that's what the tag does.

Spoiler: testing pulping in arena some more (click to show/hide)

Playing around in arena some more. "explodes into gore" seems to translate to bruising and bleeding from the injured part. Any bones in the part are broken. Also it seems the experience is really painful, a single pulped toe was enough to make a troll pass out from the pain.

Striking the same part multiple times in succession seems to increase the chance of the part "exploding into gore". Two strikes to a kobold's lower leg shattered bone, the third made it explode into gore.

Parts can either "explode" into gore, "collapse" into gore, get "crushed", or become an "unrecognizable mass". There's probably some other terms I haven't seen yet.

Haven't directly tested if pulped parts can be used. Seeing how it breaks bones, my guess is no. Don't know if it can heal, it seems like it could, since all damage is either cuts and bleeding or broken bones. Guess it depends on the fatality of the part getting pulped. Pulping the upper body is instant death listed as being struck down.

Lastly, bronze colossi are really good at pulping kobolds. A wild kick to an unconscious kobold's head not only collapsed the head, confirming that skulls can be pulped, but knocked the body flying at a speed of 4 tiles a tick, skidding along the ground and causing the neck to collapse into gore, and only stopped because it collided with a wall 10 tiles away.

[Dunmeris]

Once a month or two has passed and most of the worst glitches have been fixed, this is gonna be so awesome!

[TheDorf]

Uhh... How do I go about creating a unicorn with a steel horn?

Looking at the tissue_template_default, I think that I'll just have to somewhere in the unicorn file specify that the material of the horn is to be steel, and then the tissue_template will grab that value and use it for the tissue?

How would I go about specifying that the horn should be steel?

What I tried so far is to simply change
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:HORN:HORN_TEMPLATE]
to
[USE_MATERIAL:HORN:INORGANIC:HORN_UNICORN]

But when I killed and butchered the unicorn in the arena, it had no horn. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:HORN:<a tissue made of steel you define>]
Here's an example tissue:
   [TISSUE:BLADE]
      [TISSUE_NAME:metal:NP]
      [TISSUE_MATERIAL:INORGANIC:STEEL]
      [RELATIVE_THICKNESS:1]
      [HEALING_RATE:200]
      [CONNECTS]
      [TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER]

Thank you, now it drops (Insert unicorn's name)'s horn steel, which is definitely progress. Is there any way for me to make it drop just "steel"?

Edit:

Spoiler: Current relevant raws (click to show/hide)

[TISSUE:UNICORN_HORN]
      [TISSUE_NAME:horn:horn]
      [STRUCTURAL]
      [TISSUE_MATERIAL:INORGANIC:STEEL]
      [RELATIVE_THICKNESS:2]
      [CONNECTS]
      [TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_MATERIALS]
      [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:HOOF:HOOF_TEMPLATE]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_TISSUES]
      [USE_TISSUE_TEMPLATE:HOOF:HOOF_TEMPLATE]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERS:SKIN:FAT:MUSCLE:BONE:CARTILAGE]
   [BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:BODY_HAIR_TISSUE_LAYERS:HAIR]
   [TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:HORN:UNICORN_HORN]

[Spehss _]

So I did the smart thing and deleted the PREVENTS_PARENT_COLLAPSE tag from the skull in body_rcp.txt, then tested in arena with a bronze colossus and kobold. The whole "crush a dude's eye with a punch without hurting the rest of his face" is due to a quirk of aiming attacks, not the PREVENTS_PARENT_COLLAPSE tag.

So I don't know what that tag does then. It'd be nice if Toady provided official documentation of what each tag in the raws does. Would be a lot of writing though.

[GavJ]

You can also just use EBO tags (extra butcher objects) to drop whatever you feel like as an extra item upon butchering. An animal can drop a stone ladle if you want, without any connection to tissues.