Scripten: Firstly, why are you blowing up over this? I followed my thoughts on that post outside of posts, in my mind, where I usually think and I came to the conclusion that if I were scum I would try to stay as unassuming as possible, as DeathSword was doing, even you agreed he was doing it! So I'm not voting despite what I said I'm voting because of what I said.
As for avoiding questions, I have asked him several since the extension, and he has responded to none of them, despite the suspicion I've placed on him, to me that sounds like him trying to avoid a last minute vote turn around, which is what's happening.
Also can you explain something to me why is it that when Yobbo first changes his vote you don't get all angry and defensive, but once I explain myself you do?
PFP
Who's blowing up? I'm calling you out because in
this post, you used the following reasons to explain why you were voting for Deathsword:
1: big answering questions
2: Not posting here at all
3: Not scum hunting
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I'm actually not entirely sure what point 1 means, but I figured you meant that he was not answering questions? Plus, there's a number of things that are bugging me. Firstly, Nerjin voted you before he was killed. He didn't have any information we don't have, but he does know the game well. You didn't put any pressure on him until someone else came up with reasons to do so. Now you're doing the same thing to Deathsword, who is the other IC. The reasons you gave are the exact same as the ones I made against him, but in
this post, (quoted above) you frame it as if you came to your decision on your own and I just happened to agree with it.
And don't worry, I'm not angry.
I'm just putting pressure on you because your actions look scummy. To be honest, I was significantly harsher toward Yobbo.
Speaking of which...
Yobbo: So, let's do a thought experiment where you and anailater are a scumteam. In your
first post, you put pressure on anailater with a fairly toothless question. Not a big deal. RVS accounts for that. In your
second post, you call out Illgeo for defending anailater. Again, not a big deal. He tried to dissuade you from voting him, and you push back a bit. Still nothing showing any real teeth, but it's passable.
It's
here where I start getting suspicious. Okay, you don't agree with him, but for some reason, his responses aren't scummy. So you unvote, but not before bringing up a rule disagreement. That's a pretty safe way to play, which is kind of funny when you accuse me of playing too safely in your next post. After all, the only pressure you were directly involved in was between you and anailater. It almost seems measured, looking back.
The next few posts are pretty much directly toward explaining reasoning and answering a few questions. It's right
here where the bandwagon begins. I had my vote on Nerjin from RVS, true, but here's the interesting part about this post. You shut down a question directed at anailater. It's a fairly sneaky tactic, but you managed to get that question out of the way before Nerjin was lynched.
The next post,
here, is VERY useful to me. You use the exact same tactic that anailater is using now to bandwagon Deathsword. That is, you say that you came to the same conclusion I did via parallel logic, rather than just trying to follow a townie's lead. You also say this: "I even made sure to make it look like a real vote to add to the pressure." So you never actually put any real pressure on anailater. You just made it look like you had. Good to know.
So, we continue on and anailater is the last person who is not a confirmed townie to vote for Nerjin. Not exactly a strong piece of evidence, but it seems relevant now that the reverse has happened, where anailater starts up a wagon and you hop right on.
Now that I've thoroughly bored everyone with that wall of text, let's fast forward to Day 2. Blitz is on the chopping block because he's been playing super scummy. That's when anailater votes Deathsword out of the blue, you hop right on that boat like it's the last raft off the Titanic, but not so late that you can't try to get other votes off of BlitzDungeoneer and onto Deathsword. Your last post was not very informative.
You:
- Give some vague reads
- Say that you have dirt on me that you aren't willing to share until tomorrow (why?)
- Justify voting for your second scum choice
Beyond that, the post isn't of much use to us, though I have to question this bit:
"It's not because you're being too clear and not confronting people. I mentioned above that i don't want to press this now. But if you still don't understand why i'm voting Deathsword and not you, i can try to better explain."
Going to disagree here. Press when you have the info, or else I'm going to believe you're blowing hot air. There's no reason for townies to hold back evidence from each other, so please, enlighten us?
Okay, that should be about it. One last thing, though:
You do realise by saying that you have painted a target on both of you if he isn't scum, if your night killed people will assume its Yobbo and if Yobbo isn't scum then two Town have died just because your both being petty.
PFP
You're assuming that people will immediately jump to lynch Yobbo the next day without any discussion. Or, likewise, that if he gets stabbed, the same will happen to me. If Yobbo becomes more upfront, then sure, he may end up looking town, but as it stands right now, he's withholding information that, if I'm killed, may never be brought up. I'm making sure that a big deal is made of that, so he can't just get out of the spotlight by saying he's got evidence today to discredit me and try to push a vote on Deathsword, then, "oops," Scripten got stabbed so Yobbo might as well just not bother telling anyone what he was holding back.
Any questions?
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