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[BlitzDungeoneer]

Somewhere in Leviticus, I believe. But yeah, it isn't mentioned very much, and yet a surprising amount of Christianity has just... stuck to it.

[Gnorm]

As a side note, there's only like two verses in the Bible on the "men sleeping with men" topic, and I can't even remember where they are. I don't really know why everyone thinks it's such a big deal.

It's only explicitly stated twice in all translations, there are a handful in the New Testament, though the wording will vary depending on which Bible you prefer. Then there's Sodom, but let's not get into that right now.

[SharpKris]

And here i thought us Jews had the biggest nut cases in the religious department.
who the hell is this Jack chick? are people really following him o_0 

[freeformschooler]

And here i thought us Jews had the biggest nut cases in the religious department.
who the hell is this Jack chick? are people really following him o_0

no, his elusive following is like hipsters, no one self-identifies as a jack chickist anymore

[Descan]

It wasn't meant to be bait ;-; I knew it was probably flamey but still, not bait.

I guess I'm just a tad acerbic. ._.

[LordSlowpoke]

* LordSlowpoke cuts a slice of descan and adds it to their tea

[freeformschooler]

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[Descan]

* LordSlowpoke cuts a slice of descan and adds it to their tea

* Descan slowly vibrates and dissolves.

[Baffler]

PTW.

* MaximumZerograbs marshmallows for roasting, but otherwise intends to stay out of the conversation.[/me

If things continue as they are going now, I think you'll have cold marshmallows.

One part that gets me that I never seen Jacky-boy try to explain is why God would make such a stupid fucking story like the Bible or the Jesus-as-a-scapegoat thing when he created a universe as rational and understandable as he did.

Just doesn't jive together, on the one hand we have a fairly orderly, simple-rules-but-complex-results universe, and on the other hand, talking donkeys and "I love you all but burn for eternity if you don't stroke my ego by believing without any reason to."

Do any of those tracts of his even reference that, even if it's just a "that's all a lie by science"? I don't think he even knows about it.

Edit: Have some flames, probably~

Guess it's on me, but it's late and I can't really properly respond to this without being equally flamey now. Enjoy these from the highlights reel until then:

BEHOLD, CHILDREN, SEE WHAT YOU HAVE WROUGHT!

[Angle]

Oooh, PTW.

Hmmmm...

*Dons Firefighter Suit*
"I'm going in!"

It's a little more complicated than that. I don't judge gays as being worse than anyone else. I still think it's a sin, but being a judgemental prick is given a lot more emphasis as being a sin in the Bible than being gay.

How big a sin? Is straight sex a sin? Are there extenuating circumstances?

[Willfor]

How big a sin? Is straight sex a sin? Are there extenuating circumstances?

Soooo ... you actually want flames here? He's already said he'll talk about it in PMs to avoid what you're trying to dive into right now, and you're making yourself into the aggressor, and I just don't see how this is a good idea at all.

[MaximumZero]

Legit question: Are sins enumerated? I can never seem to find a list.

Furthermore, what the hell is "sin" supposed to be? The concept is completely foreign to me. It's always been this weird, intentionally vague concept that no one could or wanted to explain properly.

Edited for clarity.

[LordSlowpoke]

best answer to that question i've ever heard is "anything that makes your conscience act up is probably a sin, consult a priest"

you know what with the conscience supposedly being the holy spirit or something idk

[BlitzDungeoneer]

A sin is, to my understanding, something bad that people do, like murder.
Anyway, maybe I should just lock this thread?

[Angle]

I don't want flames, I just want discussion. I didn't throw any insults, I just asked questions. They weren't even dickish questions.

I had missed the PM comment. I suppose we could do things that way. I prefer more involved discussions though, so I'd rather just use the thread. I promise not to flame, even if others outright flame me. Anyone else willing to make the same promise?