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[Flying Dice]

Fair warning, Tawa: The moment where you make one of us roll to avoid tripping over our own feet is the moment where I begin doing my utmost to derail the campaign. 

[Sirus]

ALso, for wands, you still have to be able to learn or know the spell yourself, but you can use UMD,just like with scrolls.

I don't know what UMD is. HOWEVER, the wand page says nothing about the user learning or knowing the spell themselves. And the spell trigger page says, and I quote:

Anyone with a spell on his or her spell list knows how to use a spell trigger item that stores that spell. (This is the case even for a character who can’t actually cast spells, such as a 3rd-level paladin.)

Whereas scrolls must be read by someone who can learn or knows the spell. For example, a paladin would not be able to read a Longstrider spell scroll, even though it is divine magic, because he/she cannot actually learn that spell.

[GiglameshDespair]

UMD is an abbreviation of Use Magic Device.

[Rolepgeek]

....halved. SOME item's weights are halved due to Small size. Your carrying capacity is 75% that of a Medium character with equivalent Strength.

Also, Tawarochir, just be glad there aren't any Warlocks. More broken than Wizards, if you make 'em right(oh yes here's a level 9 scroll at level 12 thank you very much).

@Sirus: But he could learn it if he continued advancing, which is what I meant. It has to be on their spell list to cast it without the skill Use Magic Device(UMD). So a fifth level ranger still would be unable to use a wand of Detect Evil.

[GiglameshDespair]

Are you sure? I got that from this page: http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Adventuring_Gear

These items weigh one-quarter this amount when made for Small characters. Containers for Small characters also carry one-quarter the normal amount.

[Nerjin]

According to the handbook it is a quarter. Which seems silly to me but whatever.

[Rolepgeek]

Ah, I'm thinking of weapons and armor, my bad.

Also, Nerjin, you know that CC means cross-class right? The checked skills should be the ones you don't have as class skills, rather than the ones you do?

[Nerjin]

Quick question: I get a bonus spell of Level 2 right? So... Do I prepare that even though I'm level one or do I wait until I'm high enough level to cast Level 2's normally?

[Tawa]

You have to prepare it, silly mortal.

[Rolepgeek]

You still have to be able to cast it normally, yes.

[Sirus]

That's not the way I'm reading it, Rolep. Any character that can use a spell - ANY spell - can use wands. Because the only restriction on the wand page is that wands use a spell trigger (a word), and anyone with A SPELL on their spell list can use a spell trigger even if they cannot currently use any spells. They have the potential, in other words.

Taw, what's your take on it?

[Nerjin]

Alrighty... Let me get this straight.

I have a bonus level 2 spell due to ability scores. BUT I do not normally get a level 2 spell due to my level. Now, DO I get a Level 2 spell right now? OR do I have to wait until I hit the proper level?

[Rolepgeek]

"Specifically, anyone with a spell on his or her spelllist knows how to use a spell trigger item that stores that spell."

[Rolepgeek]

And Nerjin, you do not get to cast level 2 spells, regardless of bonus spells or not, until you've hit your third level in cleric.

[Nerjin]

Can't you retrain feats - taking Toughness early on and then replacing it once you have a few levels built up? Or is that more of a 4e thing?

Oh yes, my spells for today. Jeez, I've never used one of these "must figure them out in advance" classes before.

0th-level spells

• Purify Food and Drink
• Light
• Guidance

1st-level spells

• Cure Light Wounds
• Goodberry

2nd-level spell (bonus from Wisdom score): Barkskin
3rd-level spell (ditto): Water Breathing

This is what confused me. Well I'm pretty sad I don't get to cast them but I suppose it's for the best.