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Author Topic: WH40K discussion thread: from Tyran's heart I stab at thee.  (Read 1043839 times)

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Re: WH40K thread: wait, 40K has religious overtones?! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
« Reply #6645 on: September 19, 2016, 05:32:38 pm »

Also, I realized that people were not janking mah chains about rock star chaos cultists.  like legit, full blown chaos space marines with guitars.
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Re: WH40K thread: wait, 40K has religious overtones?! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
« Reply #6646 on: September 19, 2016, 05:50:33 pm »

Also, I realized that people were not janking mah chains about rock star chaos cultists.  like legit, full blown chaos space marines with guitars.
This was retconned to dubstep guns.
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Re: WH40K thread: wait, 40K has religious overtones?! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
« Reply #6647 on: September 19, 2016, 05:54:05 pm »

Also, I realized that people were not janking mah chains about rock star chaos cultists.  like legit, full blown chaos space marines with guitars.
This was retconned to dubstep guns.
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« Reply #6648 on: September 19, 2016, 06:04:36 pm »

Sooo, after being sent on a wiki walk I read more about the AoS...

Is this supposed to represent a major divide of WF and 40k?

As in, for instance, now suddenly officially horned rat is a legit part of chaos?  slannesh is nonplayer?

AoS is, much like Fantasy before it, technically completely separate from 40k apart from some little nods to the two versions of Chaos, such as Kaldor Draigo showing up during the End Times.

The Horned Rat does not exist in 40k, and Slaanesh is still very active, though is the weakest of the big four in 40k.

I came to the conclusion that the way the gods make the most sense at the moment is if they aren't actually bound to any given reality, but they can't just freely wander between them either. There's a lot of 40k stuff that references other dimensions and realities beyond limit that the Warp can reach, like the shadow dimension, the places visited by the Avatar of Khorne, and things referenced in some Tzeentch fluff. They exist, and always have existed in the Warp as a result of their paradoxical nature and disconnection from time, but they cannot interact with a reality until something provides a gateway for them, generally in the form of a great welling of emotions and forces related to their specific domain. So the Eldar didn't fuck Slaanesh into existence, merely fucked a door into the 40k setting for him.

Another option would be that the gods were born in 40k, then came to the Old World of Fantasy, destroyed it and moved on to the Realms of AoS. This would still leave the question of where the hell the Old World and the Realms are though and how the gods reached them.

We do not talk about AoS.

I do, it has some interesting stuff and shows potential to be a pretty good setting in the 'clashes of might heroes and gods' kinds of ways like the Horus Heresy does with Primarchs running around leading armies of superhumans. That and it's actually rather popular at my local club, especially since GW released a points system for it.
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Re: WH40K thread: wait, 40K has religious overtones?! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
« Reply #6649 on: September 19, 2016, 06:08:03 pm »

What strength is a transsexual Ctan in close combat?

I feel like it should definitely be high enough to ID a t3 guardy and invalidate his FNP.
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« Reply #6650 on: September 19, 2016, 06:09:19 pm »

, and Slaanesh is still very active, though is the weakest of the big four in 40k.
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Re: WH40K thread: wait, 40K has religious overtones?! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
« Reply #6651 on: September 19, 2016, 06:09:43 pm »

What strength is a transsexual Ctan in close combat?

I feel like it should definitely be high enough to ID a t3 guardy and invalidate his FNP.
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« Reply #6652 on: September 19, 2016, 06:17:13 pm »

I imply that their lores are becoming incompatible.

Whereas before they were able to be drawn side by side and they had a relationship so tight that you could raw direct coorelations and make theories such as you put forth, now (and for several years now, looking at the retconning of squats, the shoving off to the side things like ogyrns) they are incompatible
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Re: WH40K thread: wait, 40K has religious overtones?! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
« Reply #6653 on: September 19, 2016, 06:22:36 pm »

What strength is a transsexual Ctan in close combat?

I feel like it should definitely be high enough to ID a t3 guardy and invalidate his FNP.

Transcendent C'tan are S8 as I recall. Strong enough to slap a marine so hard the apothecaries can't put him back together.



I imply that their lores are becoming incompatible.

Whereas before they were able to be drawn side by side and they had a relationship so tight that you could raw direct coorelations and make theories such as you put forth, now (and for several years now, looking at the retconning of squats, the shoving off to the side things like ogyrns) they are incompatible

Eh, they've been incompatible since Beastmen lost bolters and Dark Elves lost powerfists really. GW wedged a crowbar betwixt the two many editions ago, it's only recently that they've pulled that crowbar out and stopped saying 'THEY'RE TOTALLY DIFFERENT GUYS!' and gone back to throwing some cross references into things again.
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Re: WH40K thread: wait, 40K has religious overtones?! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
« Reply #6654 on: September 19, 2016, 06:42:44 pm »

What strength is a transsexual Ctan in close combat?
I feel like it should definitely be high enough to ID a t3 guardy and invalidate his FNP.
WOT.
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Re: WH40K thread: wait, 40K has religious overtones?! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
« Reply #6655 on: September 19, 2016, 06:58:32 pm »

What are most memetic imperial characters on tabletop?
But seriously, nobody mentioned Yarrick?
At all!?

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Re: WH40K thread: wait, 40K has religious overtones?! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
« Reply #6656 on: September 19, 2016, 07:30:55 pm »

In case anyone was unclear WF and 40k are still different universes.
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Re: WH40K thread: wait, 40K has religious overtones?! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
« Reply #6657 on: September 19, 2016, 07:34:28 pm »

Yarrick is not really memetic, maybe except his ambiguously gay relationship with Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka.
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« Reply #6658 on: September 19, 2016, 07:35:41 pm »

Saw memetic, thought memorable.
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Re: WH40K thread: wait, 40K has religious overtones?! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
« Reply #6659 on: September 19, 2016, 08:04:45 pm »

Has Kaldor Draigo gotten a mention yet? He's not as memetacular as other 40k luminaries, but he does his part.
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