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[Kot]

The fun part is that no, I don't, so you have no excuses.

I never owned a tablet really and proably wouldn't really know how to draw using one - my freehand stuff is kinda okayish but it's way worse compared to what I do with mouse, so I think it would be similar with tablet. It's all matter of training, of course.

[Rolepgeek]

Phoo.

That means if I end up doing the thing I talked to you about I have no reason not to have it be illustrated. :/

[misko27]

The problem with the Imperium is everyone thinks that they'll be the alpha, instead of one of the legions of slaves or pathetic guardsmen. But the ratio of citizens who get ground into corpse-starch to people who become all-powerful don't look good.

FIFY~

To be honest that's the whole point of the setting in general. If you are anything but super-powerful there is no place to go but down. The difference though is that most people in Chaos choose to be cultists, whereas in the Imperium you are just sorta, born into it. You chose to be a Chaos spawn!

Really, the only compelling argument for joining Chaos is when a bunch of Word Bearers burst down your door and ask what side of a daemon summoning you want to be on. That's much more compelling then "Become infested with maggots!" and "Suffer hideous mutations!".

[Kot]

Actually, I have read a story about an Ultramarine purging some Chaos world who becomes stuck under some rubble and then a Cultist comes up to him and is like "Dude, why all the RIGHTEOUS FURY?", to which Ultramarine reply is obvious, claiming that the guy is "WRETCHED TRAITOR HERETIC MUTATION DIE DIE DIE", but then the Cultist goes "Dude, but I got born here. I never had a chance to even see an Aquilla before I was 14 and could handle an autogun. We're living relatively peacefully here minding our own stuff and try to not get sacrificed or raped by deamons and then you burst down the door and murder us all. What the fuck, dude?"
Then the Ultramarine gets up and mushes him into paste with his Power-Fist.

Nevertheless, it's worth noting that a lot of the Chaos guys actually didin't have a choice. To actually, truly and willingly fall to Chaos you need more than just "JOIN SLANNESH WE HAVE COCAINE COOKIES", at least usually, most of the people are mind-controlled by Warp and so on. One of best examples would be Fulgrim - the blade he had was slowly corrupting him and he wasn't completly aware of his actions, and when he finally woke up (after he killed Ferrus Manus, his best Primarch bro) from it, he was utterly crushed by what he had done, so he went into Villanious BSOD and let himself get locked in a painting while his body got completly overtook by the Deamon.
He got better (or rather, worse), though, and after thinking a lot about stuff he decided that joining Chaos is not that bad after all and kicked the Deamon out of his body.
The other example could be Horus (yeah, I know it's mostly Primarches but Warp damn it, when was the last time you had a regular Chaos cultist POV that included him before and after joining Chaos? Exactly...) - it is said that in the last fractions of seconds as he was being removed from existence by Emperor the Chaos left him and he was again himself.
 
Of course, this doesn't really change anything - the only effective remedy for CHAOS is death, so don't worry and PURGE THE HERETICS.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Typically, it seems that those who resist Chaos the most ultimately do the worst under it. There are outliers, of course, but as a whole Chaos benefits those who dive face-first into hell. Like that one noblewoman who reverse-possessed and ate three Keepers of Secrets to gain immortality.

[Egan_BW]

tl;dr don't let chaos take you by the balls; take chaos by the balls!
nom nom nom delicious demon so much power

[Kot]

So, well, there's this new Horus Heresy book, Praetorian of Dorn.

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Dorn killed Alpharius. And not like as in "Dorn maybe killed Alpharius or maybe it was clone or maybe Omegon", but like killed him dead. I haven't heard it for myself yet, but if the news are actually true... that means past a certain point Omegon was both himself and Alpharius and worked against himself and Imperium and Chaos and IT'S EVEN MORE CONFUSING... Holy Golden Throne, if Dorn killed Alpharius, then Rawbutt Girlyman killed Omegon (or that was decoy and he went on to become Janus and Eskrador never happened, just like 9/11)... WHO, WHO IN THE NAME OF EMPEROR IS RUNNING ALPHA LEGION NOW?!? WHY ARE THERE SO MANY CONSPIRACIES EVERYWHERE!?!

[pisskop]

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whats stopping a follower of chaos, that already makes their home in a hybrid portion of timespacechaosland, from just... occupying a new body?

[MetalSlimeHunt]

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whats stopping a follower of chaos, that already makes their home in a hybrid portion of timespacechaosland, from just... occupying a new body?

You can only do that if you're a daemon. Human followers, no matter how corrupted, are still anchored to their bodies.

[pisskop]

daemon princes are daemons though.  With no souls

[MetalSlimeHunt]

He Who Is Not never attained daemonhood, or if he did, it was in secret. Both of him.

[Tack]

Actually, I have read a story about an Ultramarine purging some Chaos world who becomes stuck under some rubble and then a Cultist comes up to him and is like "Dude, why all the RIGHTEOUS FURY?".

Salamander woulda been like "YOU ARE A MARTYR IN THE PURGE NVR BE FORGOTTEN"

[Frumple]

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whats stopping a follower of chaos, that already makes their home in a hybrid portion of timespacechaosland, from just... occupying a new body?

You can only do that if you're a daemon. Human followers, no matter how corrupted, are still anchored to their bodies.

I'unno man, I'm pretty sure a corrupted biologis could figure something out. Maybe even a plain ol' heretek. Never mind the full on sorcerers. If there's not the occasional psyker roaming around the imperium doing body swaps for giggles, I'd be terribly surprised.

... could almost swear something like that shows up in one of the novels, actually. Something about one of the (human) antagonists showing up in a different body.

[KingofstarrySkies]

So, well, there's this new Horus Heresy book, Praetorian of Dorn.

Spoiler: Spoiler. (click to show/hide)

Dorn killed Alpharius. And not like as in "Dorn maybe killed Alpharius or maybe it was clone or maybe Omegon", but like killed him dead. I haven't heard it for myself yet, but if the news are actually true... that means past a certain point Omegon was both himself and Alpharius and worked against himself and Imperium and Chaos and IT'S EVEN MORE CONFUSING... Holy Golden Throne, if Dorn killed Alpharius, then Rawbutt Girlyman killed Omegon (or that was decoy and he went on to become Janus and Eskrador never happened, just like 9/11)... WHO, WHO IN THE NAME OF EMPEROR IS RUNNING ALPHA LEGION NOW?!? WHY ARE THERE SO MANY CONSPIRACIES EVERYWHERE!?!

HAIL HYDRA
but no for real that's kind of lame tbh

[sprinkled chariot]

By the way, what happens with souls of those countless disorder vacuum seamen and their lords, after they get bolt round in the face?