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Author Topic: WH40K discussion thread: from Tyran's heart I stab at thee.  (Read 1043668 times)

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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #4680 on: July 03, 2016, 10:56:28 am »

that doesn't make me feel better at all if anything it makes it worse ;-;
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #4681 on: July 03, 2016, 11:11:41 am »

I know, which is why I'm sad the awesome ideas won't be made
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #4682 on: July 03, 2016, 04:36:20 pm »

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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #4683 on: July 03, 2016, 07:48:37 pm »

Gaunt's Ghosts is pretty cut-and-dry in terms of followable plot. I would watch a Gaunt's Ghosts Siege of Vervunhive movie. I'd watch the shit out of that movie.
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #4684 on: July 03, 2016, 08:20:44 pm »

So how about them Sisters Of Battle. Apparently, there's at least one that serves Slaanesh. That amuses me as I could've sworn they were like completely un-corruptible.
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #4685 on: July 03, 2016, 08:28:22 pm »

So how about them Sisters Of Battle. Apparently, there's at least one that serves Slaanesh. That amuses me as I could've sworn they were like completely un-corruptible.
There's a hell of a lot of all of them, so that helps. Chaos has a much harder time getting a grip of people whose faith is IRONCLAD, and in terms of this, SOBs have faith in terms of a 40k Imperator class battleship vs a Victorian coal powered dreadnought. All the same, when you have uncountable troops, you're gonna have some that lose faith eventually at some point, that's why they have penitent assassin cults and such.

Also to boot, one thing of note IIRC, is that though no Grey Knights have fallen to chaos, Tzeentch managed to sow a single seed of doubt in one Grey Knight, that is supposed to become something significant if the plot ever advances. It's easy to lose track of how characters like the SOB or GK are the most fervent faithful out of gorillions of already incredibly faithful people, so that's a shit ton of purity seals we're talking about

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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #4686 on: July 03, 2016, 08:47:06 pm »

You know, I could definitely live with it if Geedubs purged the Grey Knights. The Ultras have some real fans out there, but I strongly suspect that Matt Ward is the only person who was ever super into the GKs. I don't even remember what they were like before he fucked their lore up, I'm not even certain they existed before the Ward Era.
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #4687 on: July 03, 2016, 08:53:04 pm »

Considering the growth, I would say that humans are literally infinite.
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #4688 on: July 03, 2016, 09:16:52 pm »

You know, I could definitely live with it if Geedubs purged the Grey Knights. The Ultras have some real fans out there, but I strongly suspect that Matt Ward is the only person who was ever super into the GKs. I don't even remember what they were like before he fucked their lore up, I'm not even certain they existed before the Ward Era.
Before ward era they were like living maguffins, like if the Men in Black were walking battle tanks. I think the thing about them was that they were the most mysterious militant branch of one of the strangest branches of the secretive inquistion, they did not feel like space marines, feeling more like terrifying executioners. On the tabletop due to a lack of updates they were not competitive at all, requiring expert control to not horribly fail, which I think is appropriate for inquisition resources. You had to essentially have a stormtrooper backbone with chimeras galore, with the actual Grey Knights serving as a surgeon's scalpal to eliminating high value targets before escaping from tarpits and allowing stormtroopers to clean up the rest (as the poor guys often have to do) or bring in orbital bombardment.

In the new edition fluffwise they were... Ok, ignore Ward fluff. New BL fluff sounds pretty awesome, I haven't read it myself but reading the synopsis it sounds more like they portray the GK less as men in black and more as SCP + inquisition, dealing with the vastness of chaos because nobody else can
On the tabletop, they suffered an initial backlash due to immense cheese, baby carriers and Matt, but now they are less "storm troopers doing all the work whilst the surgeons do god knows what" and more "MIND BULLETS, I USE MIND BULLETS AHAHAHAHA MAGIC MISSILE MAGIC MISSILE MAGIC MISSILE" with the addendum that you may still need to bring along stormtroopers (getting no breaks), but the GK can definitely hold their own as a standalone, where they effectively function as a small, localized exterminatus - fittingly, focused on killing very big things, demonic things, big demonic things, and more or less ok at killing small single wound heretics (though large massive groups of small normal things will eventually overwhelm them, so leave that crap to stormtroopers).

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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #4689 on: July 03, 2016, 09:54:16 pm »

You know, if I was to make a FPS about 40k, I'd make many. But the first would be as an Inquisitorial Stormtrooper.
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #4690 on: July 03, 2016, 10:08:47 pm »

I would want Imperial Guard (or hell, just generic Wh40k fps with Space Marines and the rest) fps with symetrical (Guard vs Heretics, Marines vs Chaos Marines) and asymetrical (CSM vs IG, IG vs Tau, whatever) warfare and unit skins depending on the map and vehicles...
Basically Rival Species but actually working and relased and commercial and whatnot.
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« Reply #4691 on: July 03, 2016, 10:17:31 pm »

That as well. And honestly I'd want each factionracething to play entirely different from one another and FEEL different. Guardsmen should feel like Red Orchestra, Tau are much more.. i don't even know tbh but i want it-Lotsamechs!

Etc, etc.
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #4692 on: July 03, 2016, 10:33:00 pm »

Tau should be like nearly all snipers.
It would be funny to watch them stabbed to death on Stalingrad-esque map.
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« Reply #4693 on: July 03, 2016, 11:46:57 pm »

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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #4694 on: July 03, 2016, 11:49:28 pm »

Tau should be like nearly all snipers.
It would be funny to watch them stabbed to death on Stalingrad-esque map.
I'm not gonna lie I'd expect Tau to just be Titanfall with less falling and more Titan-ing
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