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Author Topic: WH40K discussion thread: from Tyran's heart I stab at thee.  (Read 1043907 times)

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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: nuking the Warp edition.
« Reply #435 on: May 09, 2015, 06:06:55 am »

I really didn't like Space Marine, though.
They did boltguns wrong.
How?

The bolter fires too fast. It's basically an assault rifle.
If that's the thing I'm thinking I'm remembering.
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: nuking the Warp edition.
« Reply #436 on: May 09, 2015, 06:16:32 am »

The bolter pistol is really good, but I'm not sure about the other stuff.
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: nuking the Warp edition.
« Reply #437 on: May 09, 2015, 02:48:28 pm »

I'm not sure if the other bolters the marine in space marine uses are like, a thing for most space marines either. But I do think they did a good job of making bolts seem impactful, though, unlike in dawn of war where they're basically just huge machine guns. The bolter pistol is really great on space marine.

Yeah, I thought SM's representation of a bolter was one of the better I've seen. IIRC it's still single fire too, you can just mash the button quickly to achieve rapid fire. The SFX might have been good or not good depending on your preferences, the search for the perfection bolter sound continues.

About the only thing I didn't like about SM were the executions to regain health. It was super gamey and basically wrecked the flow of gameplay for me (in addition to you being fully vulnerable while it happens, invalidating the health regen it gave.)

SM wasn't perfect by any means, but it was a step in a better direction compared to Storm of Vengeance and a good number of the el cheapo mobile 40k titles that have come after.
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: nuking the Warp edition.
« Reply #438 on: May 09, 2015, 03:06:56 pm »

But bolters can be fired on automatic.
At the least, they normally are at least shown with burst fire, which means they should be capable of automatic fire.

I imagine that with the power of a bolter, however, it's not normally needed.
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: nuking the Warp edition.
« Reply #439 on: May 09, 2015, 03:13:23 pm »

Storm bolters are pretty much meant to be full auto bolter things, but regular bolters I'm not so sure of.Maybe all regular bolters are semi automatic rifle things :v
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: nuking the Warp edition.
« Reply #440 on: May 09, 2015, 05:13:22 pm »

Storm bolters are pretty much meant to be full auto bolter things, but regular bolters I'm not so sure of.Maybe all regular bolters are semi automatic rifle things :v

At most bolters would have a burst fire selector. Storm bolters are really just two bolters taped together with their firing intertwined. Even Heavy Bolters, that fire full auto, aren't like, Assault Cannon levels of full auto. I think the propellant-based shells can't really be fired in that volume.
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: nuking the Warp edition.
« Reply #441 on: May 09, 2015, 05:29:20 pm »

The actual firing mechanisms is identical to any standard automatic firearm. The rocket part only ignites once it's left the barrel.
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: nuking the Warp edition.
« Reply #442 on: May 09, 2015, 11:42:21 pm »

The actual firing mechanisms is identical to any standard automatic firearm. The rocket part only ignites once it's left the barrel.

You mean any standard 40k firearm?

I mean, autoguns are caseless, after all...
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: nuking the Warp edition.
« Reply #443 on: May 09, 2015, 11:52:19 pm »

I think they're semi-auto.
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: nuking the Warp edition.
« Reply #444 on: May 10, 2015, 06:24:56 am »

Why doesn't the Imperium clone an army of primarchs and just steamroll over everyone?
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: nuking the Warp edition.
« Reply #445 on: May 10, 2015, 06:36:28 am »

Why doesn't the Imperium clone an army of primarchs and just steamroll over everyone?

1) They have very little of the primarchs genetic material and all of it belongs to the space marines that worship the primarchs as progenitors.

2) Clones tend to mutate horribly or degenerate. Even Fabius Bile, the greatest scientist of all marines couldn't clone Horus without the results being sickly and simple minded.

3) The primarchs genetic material was inherently unstable since they were partially imbued with power the Emperor stole from the gods of chaos.

4) Cloning a whole person is usually considered a form of heresy. Cloning is usually only used to grow servitor bodies and organic limbs for people who don't want bionics.
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: nuking the Warp edition.
« Reply #446 on: May 10, 2015, 06:38:40 am »

Also the Primarchs were all partially warp beings, explaining how they were so haxx.
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: nuking the Warp edition.
« Reply #447 on: May 10, 2015, 06:41:44 am »

Holy cow!

I just realized something...

A 40k Warhammer MMO would probably force the creators to retcon the whole No Women thing (which to admit is just their excuse for not making female marine models... which in all fairness is expensive)
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: nuking the Warp edition.
« Reply #448 on: May 10, 2015, 06:43:16 am »

You mean Eternal War?
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: nuking the Warp edition.
« Reply #449 on: May 10, 2015, 06:44:43 am »

You mean Eternal War?

I... haven't been keeping up with things.

To give you an idea of how far behind I am... I am still operating under the idea that the Necrouns still matter.
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