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Author Topic: WH40K discussion thread: from Tyran's heart I stab at thee.  (Read 1043381 times)

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Re: WH40K general discussion thread: Lictor, P.I.
« Reply #9660 on: November 10, 2017, 12:39:07 am »

Thanks, but those are technical differences, not functional differences. I'm asking about how much damage they do, what they're used for, stuff like that.

Do you mean in rules or in lore, then?
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« Reply #9661 on: November 10, 2017, 12:43:20 am »

Thanks, but those are technical differences, not functional differences. I'm asking about how much damage they do, what they're used for, stuff like that.

Do you mean in rules or in lore, then?
Either or. Both are good.
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« Reply #9662 on: November 10, 2017, 01:08:19 am »

Thanks, but those are technical differences, not functional differences. I'm asking about how much damage they do, what they're used for, stuff like that.

Do you mean in rules or in lore, then?
Either or. Both are good.

Well, then:

Pulse technology shows up mostly in Tau-portable infantry weapons, with the battlesuit-mounted versions being equivalent to strapping a bunch of pulse rifles together. They damage in a fashion midway between a lasgun and a bolter, being less explosive than the latter and less focused than the former, although they outrange both. The much larger Pulse Submunitions guns, and to a greater extent the Ordnance Multi-Driver, are closer to Pulse cluster bomb launchers, and are mounted on large battlesuits and used for area denial.

Plasma technology is standard Plasma: armor-piercing heavy weaponry intended to crack heavy infantry and tanks. Tau plasma is less damaging than the Imperial type, both to its target and to its operator, and is also carried exclusively by vehicles.

The Tau actually have two kinds of Ion weapons: the old kind are vehicle-mounted artillery and there's a newer man-portable kind. While the old-style Ion Cannons and Accelerators are used as anti-vehicle weaponry, the new Ion Rifles and Ion Rakers are more like ion machine guns. That said, the new overload function apparently lets anything fire area-effect Ion explosives at the expense of safety, so arguably all Ion weapons are at least partly anti-infantry now.
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Re: WH40K general discussion thread: Lictor, P.I.
« Reply #9663 on: November 10, 2017, 01:15:11 am »

If pulse weapons are "standard" weapons and plasma is anti-armour, then what are ion weapons used for?
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« Reply #9664 on: November 10, 2017, 01:17:09 am »

If pulse weapons are "standard" weapons and plasma is anti-armour, then what are ion weapons used for?

Anti-bigger-armor. That's why they're on Hammerheads.
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Re: WH40K general discussion thread: Lictor, P.I.
« Reply #9665 on: November 10, 2017, 01:48:33 am »

although they outrange both.
That's arguable in technical terms. Tau range superiority seems to stem more from actually being able to hit shit, as their rifles have much more accuracy boosting shit on them.
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Re: WH40K general discussion thread: Lictor, P.I.
« Reply #9666 on: November 10, 2017, 06:59:46 am »

Anyhow, all of it is disgusting xeno tech heresy.
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Re: WH40K general discussion thread: Lictor, P.I.
« Reply #9667 on: November 10, 2017, 12:05:04 pm »

Anyhow, all of it is disgusting xeno tech heresy.

Praise be, Brother.
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« Reply #9668 on: November 10, 2017, 12:11:34 pm »

Anyhow, all of it is disgusting xeno tech heresy.

Given the aesthetics of the Astreus, and the new plasma rules, I have to ask: is it still xenotech after Cawl steals it for the Imperium?
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« Reply #9669 on: November 10, 2017, 12:50:26 pm »

Anyhow, all of it is disgusting xeno tech heresy.

Given the aesthetics of the Astreus, and the new plasma rules, I have to ask: is it still xenotech after Cawl steals it for the Imperium?

HE REDISCOVERED ANCIENT DESIGNS, no innovation or xenotech was involved.
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Re: WH40K general discussion thread: Lictor, P.I.
« Reply #9670 on: November 10, 2017, 02:56:01 pm »

Clearly the Tau stole their tech from humans and thus it's simply reclaiming, because xenos couldn't possibly make such advanced technology

Yep

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Re: WH40K general discussion thread: Lictor, P.I.
« Reply #9671 on: November 10, 2017, 03:08:24 pm »

Given the aesthetics of the Astreus, and the new plasma rules, I have to ask: is it still xenotech after Cawl steals it for the Imperium?
What Cawl does is pretty much heresy, even Guilliman acknowledges that, and he was the one who told him to do it.
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Re: WH40K general discussion thread: Lictor, P.I.
« Reply #9672 on: November 10, 2017, 03:13:11 pm »

I'm pretty sure Guilliman was just mocking the outrage of the Ecclesiarchy when he said that.
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« Reply #9673 on: November 10, 2017, 03:23:01 pm »

I'm pretty sure Guilliman was just mocking the outrage of the Ecclesiarchy when he said that.

Or it's another expression of his crippling father complex, along with being a control freak; he may just be subconsciously wanting someone to constrain his own conduct.
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« Reply #9674 on: November 10, 2017, 07:17:51 pm »

from what I gathered, big G doesnt really seem to care about whether something is repugnant, or against his personal values, or slightly extremely illegal, as long as it's not Choas Heretical and will help him save daddy's Imperium?
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