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[Neonivek]

Dunno, that guy has been one the throne for ten millenia and hasn't finished being on there yet

He feels like someone who has undue importance thrust upon him though. Which... given the setting, is kind of exactly why he is important.

That guy feels like an American Bank... Too big to fail... Yet too bloated to really do anything.

[GiglameshDespair]

He feels like someone who has undue importance thrust upon him though.

U wot m8

[misko27]

A man literally builds a galaxy-spanning empire within a generation. It's like Rome, but instead of happening over several centuries, it occurred within the life and leadership of a single (incredibly amazing) man, and also the empire is several orders of magnitude larger and grew to encompass most of known space, and also the dude is a ridiculously amazing scientist in addition to a psychic being of literally unmatched strength and also probably immortal.

And also he goes around in golden armor with a flaming sword. I mean really the dude's biggest flaw appears to be not realizing that he was going to be deified, which is, admittedly, a huge flaw because it's utterly baffling.

[Neonivek]

And you know... the whole being a baby eating Lich thing.

Unless they retconned that and he went vegan with the tofu being so nutritious he could survive off of just that.

[LordBaal]

The one thing we can be sure off is GW doing a travesty of themselves with the amazing lore at their disposal. It's they trademarked and patented Bozzo business model.

[TempAcc]

Inb4 40k becomes a saturday morning cartoon whose main purpose is to sell minis.

[Neonivek]

Inb4 40k becomes a saturday morning cartoon whose main purpose is to sell minis.

I somehow feel like that wouldn't change anything.

[pisskop]

chaos can canonically be about so, due to the power structure and how warp works.


captain pollution is very much lawful evil nurgle worshipper.
litterman is ... not so much.
but the arbitrariness of a lot of smcv is explainable by 'warp power'.  destroying worlds makes a lot of sense if done as an offering.  khorne most readily fits the villian formula.

[MrRoboto75]

Inb4 40k becomes a saturday morning cartoon whose main purpose is to sell minis.

Teenage
Mutant
Ninja
Cultists

[TempAcc]

Inb4 40k becomes a saturday morning cartoon whose main purpose is to sell minis.

Teenage
Mutant
Ninja
Cultists

I can already see Fabulous Bile leading a ragtag band of dumb mutant sidekicks and abbadon dressed as shredder.

Also, Thunderwarriors, ho!
And we must not forget our hero, He-Guilliman
And Necrons Alive!

[Urist McScoopbeard]

Wait, wait, wait, everyone slow down. We're discussing what's going to change, and I don't even know what the fuck is going on! Is there some tangible product behind this teaser trailer of sorts? Is it an update to the lore/retcons galore or a new novel? I am very confused. Is GWS end-times-ing us?

[Andres]

Wait, wait, wait, everyone slow down. We're discussing what's going to change, and I don't even know what the fuck is going on! Is there some tangible product behind this teaser trailer of sorts? Is it an update to the lore/retcons galore or a new novel? I am very confused. Is GWS end-times-ing us?

Are you aware of a certain book that came out a while ago called Fall of Cadia?

[Grim Portent]

Wait, wait, wait, everyone slow down. We're discussing what's going to change, and I don't even know what the fuck is going on! Is there some tangible product behind this teaser trailer of sorts? Is it an update to the lore/retcons galore or a new novel? I am very confused. Is GWS end-times-ing us?

Warhammer 40k is moving into it's 8th edition soon, either June or July I forget which. The timeline is progressing past 999 M41 and into M42, which has normally been the hardcap on event times.

The 13th Black Crusade has begun properly, and will presumably be a big part of the new setting. Cadia has been destroyed, cracked in pieces by Abaddon. With Cadia gone the Galaxy has been riven in twain by warp storms, and half the Imperium has been cut off from Terra except through small stable warp routes. The newly awoken Guilliman and Archmagos Cawl have devised a way to more rapidly produce marines that Cawl has been working on for 8000+ years, as well as new gear for these new marines to use, and now a bunch will be getting made and deployed to hold back Chaos. The Ynnead aligned Eldar are nominally allied with the Imperium against Chaos. What's going on with everyone else we still don't know.

Mechanically the game is being simplified. Special rules will be found in the units that have them's rules, vehicles and MCs will now work the same way more or less, and a bunch of smaller rules are gone or folded into the main rules they form exceptions to. In total the new core rules are supposed to be just 17 pages. To hit rolls are now done on a fixed number, cover improves a units saving throw, armour pen is gone and replaced by save reducers ala Fantasy/AoS/Old 40k. Pistols can be fired in close quarters. Blah-de-blah-de-blah, bunch of changes, core concept stays the same.

Everything is supposed to be getting new rules on the release day, and it's supposed to be updated yearly, rather than the erratic schedule currently used.


I am surprised you aren't aware of this, 8th edition has been anticipated since peopel realised how shitty 7th was balance wise, and people have been wanting Abaddon to get off his arse and do stuff for decades.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

I don't tabletop, so edition changes aren't on the top of my newsfeed, but thank you for explaining it for me. Mixed feelings. Could be good to get some new content up in this Tzeentch, but considering how bad End Times was for WHFB, I'm a little worried. Also, hella Deuz Ex Machina going on terms of the plot--and not in a Chaos God sort of way either (though I'm sure there's that too.)

[Grim Portent]

The setting is basically reascending to a HH2 type scenario. Rather than ailing and pitiable mortals fighting in the shadows of dead gods to fend off the growing darkness, the setting is returning to the might and glory of the old days of most of the factions, with gods and angels clashing among the burning stars to seize destiny by the throat as the true blackness of the outer void rises to claim all in it's hungry embrace.