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[LordBaal]

Exactly. If you select to play as a Chapter Master then you will not be playing open battles that much, instead playing mostly commando missions or as backup for imperial armies. Field battles all by yourself should be rare and really special, requiring to muster as much chapter your can and even then most probably you'll feel overwhelmed, balanced over the fact your soldiers will scorn most damage.

You play as a Imperial Guard then be ready to play field battles all the time, defend from sieges and generally play with thousands of units in a any given battle. Special assault/command missions would be rarer but not impossible, yet very difficult compared to SM players.

Chaos could be a balance of both, or even have the complete scale as you manage CSM and hordes of traitors.

Orks along Tyranids would be the most simple faction to manage. Simply attack, attack, attack. Biomatter management for the Tyranids could be fun as you manage them as the hordes of Total War or the fleet based chapters on Chapter Master.

But EVERY SINGLE MEN/FOUL XENOS MATTERS. The difference is how much each is worth. As the SM faction you would be pressed to gather/care for gene-seed, more initiates and mounting losses will hit you hard. As the IG faction you'll have and lose soldiers by the hundreds/thousands but you need to replenish them too. So requiring more regiments and reinforces to the depleted ones would be a thing too.

And so on...

[Grim Portent]

Then they went and made Retribution and just made one crappy campaign but with seven different skins tacked on, damn shame.

They did have some damn nice characters in that campaign though.

Dat Ork Freeboota.

Also totally loved Neroth the chaos sorcerer. That voice made me go Mmmmm.

[90908]

Speaking of Dow...
http://www.windowscentral.com/new-warhammer-40000-dawn-war-game-could-be-announced-may-3

HYPEHYEPHYPEHYPEHYPEPHYE.

WAAAAAAAAGH

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I'm declaring my standard for Dawn of War 3 is that it has to be at least as entertaining as Kaptain Bludflagg.

[90908]

I'm declaring my standard for Dawn of War 3 is that it has to be at least as entertaining as Kaptain Bludflagg.

I'm just crossing my fingers for METAL BAWKSES.

Oh, and an in depth RTS game with a interesting and long campaign that registers my decision and uses them to customize my experience. But boxes are good too.

[Kot]

It's not another character for Last Stand...
It's a new map.

[LordBaal]

I'm too inclined to the new map or character or something along those lines

[Andres]

Indrick Boreale origin story pls.

[LordBaal]

BATUL BROTHAS!
TODEH IS THE DEH!

I expect the announcement of either a new map or character for The Last Stand or what could be either a great DoW3 or yet another mediocre "RTS" thrown into the market by the hand of SEGA AKA "CASH FOR THE CASH GOD, YACHTS TO THE SHAREHOLDERS YACHTS THRONE!".

[Kot]

Yes.
IMPERIAL KNIGHT LAST STAND CHARACTER FOR THE WIN.
Though they changed how cover works and stuff. It's not like we can yet say it's going to be horrible, but it certainly takes even more different path than DoWI and DoWII.

EDIT:
Also I undesrtand that Imperial Guard doesn't fit well into artistic trailers but GIVE ME MY FUCKING IMPERIAL GUARD.

[TempAcc]

Bald Ravens, bad moons and those eldar from the one craftword I cant remember fighting again? Welp, I guess they really love that plotline, or they cant use anything else without interfering with canon stuff.

[Radio Controlled]

So it seems we'll be getting something in between DOW I and II, larger scale than the second but still with a focus on special units and heroes, and an attempt to make you feel some attachment to 'your' army.

Not sure I like the campaign having a three-way focus, I always loathed playing against imperium as chaos or aliens. Feels wrong somehow :v

Still, not gonna get my hype train steamed up until more is known.

[LordBaal]

I'm the only one that thought the space marines look kind of... skinny on the video? I think we are used to more thickest marines/suits. Or might have been just the scale of this monitor.

Also why are the magpies so fucking suicidal in this video?

The presence of Titans hints there might other Imperial factions. Adeptus Mechanicum at least. Ir that was a Knight or whatever they are called.

Oh just saw some screens of the game. So far it seems it's going to be one of those online based games or built around a multilayer experience (think Company of Heros 2 or blitzkrieg 3). I guess microtransactions for the microtransactions god will abound. Also it seems to be make with tablets in mind or something. If it is then I'm NOT BUYING IT.

[Egan_BW]

Those in-game units seem remarkably ungrimdark. Might just be that it's still in production tho.

[LordBaal]

Those in-game units seem remarkably ungrimdark. Might just be that it's still in production tho.

The units seems to come from an episode of my little pony instead of the grim dark ages of 40K. If there was something the first games got right was the feeling and atmosphere. I see those screen captures and I can't think of 40K, I think Saturday morning cartoon. Or that this might be the "Tiberium Twilight" of the series. I hope to be wrong.