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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #3285 on: March 03, 2016, 10:23:54 am »

A band of Men Of Iron that somehow survived? Possibly all bodies controlled by single mainframe or something.
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #3286 on: March 03, 2016, 10:33:17 am »

A band of Men Of Iron that somehow survived? Possibly all bodies controlled by single mainframe or something.
Or some scarabs that somewhat got permanently out of link with a tomb lord or something like that.

Thing of the Von Neumann probes is while they share the same programming they are non really controlled by a central point, each one is independent. Really building such machines is just a recipe for disaster.
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #3287 on: March 03, 2016, 11:14:53 am »

Just one question: how was it alive 100k years ago? Humans were still cavemen back in those days.

At least in my understanding, Humanity has been around for much longer than 40,000 years. It's just that's where the Imperium's memory starts. There are uncounted expanses of time before that which represent the Age of Strife, Old Night and the Dark Age of Technology. The AI and its creators hail from that time.
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #3288 on: March 03, 2016, 11:51:48 am »

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« Reply #3289 on: March 03, 2016, 11:58:40 am »

Just one question: how was it alive 100k years ago? Humans were still cavemen back in those days.

At least in my understanding, Humanity has been around for much longer than 40,000 years. It's just that's where the Imperium's memory starts. There are uncounted expanses of time before that which represent the Age of Strife, Old Night and the Dark Age of Technology. The AI and its creators hail from that time.

I think it's stated that the start of the timeline is roughly when mankind first left Earth, which would place it either in the 20th century or sometime in the next few hundred years.
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #3290 on: March 03, 2016, 12:26:36 pm »

Actually... no...
For some reason (proably simplicity) Imperial dating system is based on our own, which means that Wh40k dates are the same as you would write them in our system, they just call it fancier. Warhammer 40,000 takes place literally in 40,000 AD, not 42,000 AD or anything... and I don't exactly recall humanity making AIs 62,000 years ago, but hey, what do I know. As for the rest of the events - have a timeline.

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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #3291 on: March 03, 2016, 01:34:11 pm »

It was a relatively arbitrary number I threw out, mostly because I was having problems with the Imperial dating system myself.

I notice the only citation on that article is "WH40k 3rd Edition Core Rulebook." Since everything after 2nd ed. is technically heresy in my book, I'm going to willfully ignore the stated timeline.
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« Reply #3292 on: March 03, 2016, 03:27:07 pm »

Yup, 40k actually "happens" in 38.000 years from now.

However you can still factor in aliens, maybe is an alien city with alien AI instead of a human one. OR perhaps the human colonists discovered an already abandoned city with the AI in it and just adapted to their own use? There's still some way you can take advantage of that randomly thrown number. That or you can rectify and state the AI is between 20k and 10k years old.

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I'm curious as to how a tank would evolve. Would it climb out of the primordial ooze wiggling it's track-nubs, feeding on smaller jeeps before crawling onto the shore having evolved proper treds?
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #3293 on: March 03, 2016, 03:44:47 pm »

I haven't given the players a specific date/age of the city, nor its inhabitants, and I've pretty definitely told them its a pre-Imperial human world.

So I can just invent a less preposterous date. Thanks for setting me straight.
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #3294 on: March 03, 2016, 05:02:06 pm »

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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #3295 on: March 03, 2016, 05:15:21 pm »

GUYS! NEW TTS!
Wait... WHAT IN THE NAME OF GOD EMPEROR IS THIS LOYALTY?
TWO NEW TTS!!!
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« Reply #3296 on: March 03, 2016, 05:31:16 pm »

So virus bombs are not used because it makes nurgle stronger?
Is not murdering heretics making khorne stronger ( all chapters with Sanguinius as primarch fill him with joy, i suppose) . And comfortable chairs and tasty food empowering slaanesh?
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #3297 on: March 03, 2016, 05:50:38 pm »

No, the Viral Bombs are used, killing heretics does happen and comfortable chairs and comfy food apparently do exist somehow, and while THEORETICALLY, yes, that would empower the respective Chaos Gods, it doesn't seem that way, or Imperium just doesn't care. They really aren't big on Bioweapons anymore since mass destruction weaponry was the Legion Destroyer Squads part and, them being the bad boys even before the Heresy happened, most of them fell to Chaos one way or another, taking the weapons with them.
Imperium still uses weapons like that but they're now mostly certain Imperial Guard regiments toys (Salvar Chem Dogs, Death Korps of Krieg and so on, basically the guys with gasmasks) and Inqusition Exterminatus-grade weapons that wreck entire worlds, because anything less powerful would proably not get the wanted effect. After all, Space Marine armour is completly sealed and not everything works on Eldar and Tau run around in suits that might be protected against those threats, Orks are naturally resilient and whatnot.

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Also Holy God Emperor, the TTS story thickens so fast that Slannesh itself is pleased.
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #3298 on: March 03, 2016, 06:15:03 pm »

Well in Dark Heresy if you turn up to a ritual of Khorne, best SoP is to prioritize stopping the ritual before killing the heretics.
'Cos killing the heretics would probably just complete it.
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Re: Warhammer 40K discussion thread: Disorder Vacuum Seamen.
« Reply #3299 on: March 03, 2016, 06:42:42 pm »

Tau run around in suits that might be protected against those threats
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