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[Xantalos]

Okay that I'm more curious about. The Space Wolves thing, that is. I know that there are no wolves on Fenris and that Russ bullshitted his way around the Edict of Nikaea by claiming his psykers channeled the power of Fenris, but Chaos?

[Mech#4]

A few more screenshots. I don't wish to clutter things up too much so that'll be all. Maybe if a game occurs between Bay12ians and people don't mind I'll post some more but future images might be better off in a thread in Other Games.

--Edit--
Screenshots are of the "Ultimate Apocalypse: The Hunt Begins" mod for "Dawn of War: Soul Storm" with the extra factions "Chaos Daemons", "Inquisitional Daemon Hunters" and "Tyranids" mods. Extra factions have to be downloaded separately from their respective pages on Moddb.
Links are listed on the "Ultimate Apocalypse" download page on Moddb. Click the "Read more" button in the Description.
--End Edit--

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

It's Titan vs Titan as Chaos squares off against the Imperial Guard. Explosions send the fodder cultists flying and a warpstorm tears the enemies base apart.


Seen from a nearby hilltop, the Imperial Reaver Titan is destroyed and topples back onto a supporting Warhound.


From the ground the combat is nearly completely obscured. Cultists are forced forwards by their squad leaders in a futile attempt to damage the enemy, being much more useful detecting invisible snipers and airborne forces.


The warpstorm boils the skies as the Imperial base collapses around the techpriests who built it.


The Imperial Titans fall and the way is left open for the tides of Chaos cultists to push into the enemy base proper. I don't think a pintle mounted machine gun is going to help much.


In another area of the map, the daemon primarch Angron towers over some amazingly still alive guardsmen. They're not running because...


They're backed up by a Stormhammer. Four huge barrels zero in on the daemonic primarch, but they're in for a rude awakening because...


A Daemon Prince has his burning eyes on an easy target.


After stepping on the guardsmen Angron goes looking for slightly larger prey, finding it in the form of another Reaver Titan. It is of little challenge to the Chaos infused primarch who shrugs off amassed fire without getting hurt at all.


Getting tired of hacking at the legs of the titan, Angron summons about 5 Bloodthirsters and proceeds to tear into the command centre of the Imperial Guard.


Returning a little later and we find that the Bloodthirsters have multiplied into 10. Just Angron himself was already overkill.


The base was promptly levelled. Here we see the efforts of the Iron Warriors superior knowledge of siege warfare. They know how to build and maintain a defensive line.


Amidst the mountains of corpses on the bridge lies the body of a Khorne Terminator Berserker. Surrounded by guardsmen, psykers and ogryns he surely served Khorne well.

Victory for Chaos!
Chaos Space Marines (Iron Warriors: Me), Chaos Daemons (A.I), Chaos Space Marines (Black Legion: A.I).
VS
3 Imperial Guards (8th Cadian Battalion: A.I).

[UXLZ]

Is this the Apocalypse/Armageddon/Whatever mod for SS?

[Radio Controlled]

Is this the Apocalypse/Armageddon/Whatever mod for SS?

Yes, ultimate apocalypse for dow: soulstorm.

A few more screenshots. I don't wish to clutter things up too much so that'll be all. Maybe if a game occurs between Bay12ians and people don't mind I'll post some more but future images might be better off in a thread in Other Games.

--Edit--
Screenshots are of the "Ultimate Apocalypse: The Hunt Begins" mod for "Dawn of War: Soul Storm" with the extra factions "Chaos Daemons", "Inquisitional Daemon Hunters" and "Tyranids" mods. Extra factions have to be downloaded separately from their respective pages on Moddb.
Links are listed on the "Ultimate Apocalypse" download page on Moddb. Click the "Read more" button in the Description.
--End Edit--

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

It's Titan vs Titan as Chaos squares off against the Imperial Guard. Explosions send the fodder cultists flying and a warpstorm tears the enemies base apart.


Seen from a nearby hilltop, the Imperial Reaver Titan is destroyed and topples back onto a supporting Warhound.


From the ground the combat is nearly completely obscured. Cultists are forced forwards by their squad leaders in a futile attempt to damage the enemy, being much more useful detecting invisible snipers and airborne forces.


The warpstorm boils the skies as the Imperial base collapses around the techpriests who built it.


The Imperial Titans fall and the way is left open for the tides of Chaos cultists to push into the enemy base proper. I don't think a pintle mounted machine gun is going to help much.


In another area of the map, the daemon primarch Angron towers over some amazingly still alive guardsmen. They're not running because...


They're backed up by a Stormhammer. Four huge barrels zero in on the daemonic primarch, but they're in for a rude awakening because...


A Daemon Prince has his burning eyes on an easy target.


After stepping on the guardsmen Angron goes looking for slightly larger prey, finding it in the form of another Reaver Titan. It is of little challenge to the Chaos infused primarch who shrugs off amassed fire without getting hurt at all.


Getting tired of hacking at the legs of the titan, Angron summons about 5 Bloodthirsters and proceeds to tear into the command centre of the Imperial Guard.


Returning a little later and we find that the Bloodthirsters have multiplied into 10. Just Angron himself was already overkill.


The base was promptly levelled. Here we see the efforts of the Iron Warriors superior knowledge of siege warfare. They know how to build and maintain a defensive line.


Amidst the mountains of corpses on the bridge lies the body of a Khorne Terminator Berserker. Surrounded by guardsmen, psykers and ogryns he surely served Khorne well.

Victory for Chaos!
Chaos Space Marines (Iron Warriors: Me), Chaos Daemons (A.I), Chaos Space Marines (Black Legion: A.I).
VS
3 Imperial Guards (8th Cadian Battalion: A.I).

Meh, as thread op I don't really mind this being in here, though a separate thread for the mod in other games might be tidier indeed. Maybe I'll make a thread for it sometime.

[Knit tie]

I don't know, "The Dark Angels/Space Wolves are actually secretly Chaos" theory just doesn't sound that convincing to me. The Dark Angels' obsession with hunting the Fallen can be explained perfectly well by bog-standard insane ideological fanaticism - "We are not traitors, we will never be traitors, we will purge everyone who says that we are traitors!" and so on and so forth, while the Space Wolves' penchant for aloofness and independence isn't even remotely strange by the standards of the Imperium, where keeping secrets is a national pastime and organisations that cooperate as if they actually were parts of the same state and not completely independent petty kingdoms in a much larger Empire are almost unheard of.

[nenjin]

Mostly agree with Knit Tie. The real objection against the Space Wolves is how the hell could they murder Prospero for being mutants when they themselves have only slightly less bizarre mutations, aka the Wolfen. It's the real reason I hate the Space Wolves. They think their shit smells better than everyone else's. They're gigantic nordic hypocrites with a superiority complex.

[Tack]

Well I'd like to say Horus intercepted the orders and basically made their stuff sound crazy heinous.
But yeah, pretty much. You'd think the SW's would take a second look at whatever was happening.

[nenjin]

Yeah, but they (SW and TS) had it out for each other before the SW landed on Prospero. In one story the TS visit Fenris and the SW basically go Wulfen on them, and they're one punch away from outright warfare. The SWs simply hate sorcery, despite having dirt-grubbing, animalistic sorcerers of their own.

Like I said, hypocrites.

[Tack]

Yeah still having trouble figuring the difference between psychic power and sorcery.
It's the exact same thing on the tabletop- what's people's thoughts in fluff?

[GiglameshDespair]

It's the same thing.

[nenjin]

Yeah still having trouble figuring the difference between psychic power and sorcery.
It's the exact same thing on the tabletop- what's people's thoughts in fluff?

In table top it's the same thing.

They're different in fluff. Sorcery doesn't require you to be psychic. You can manipulate the power of the Warp either through psychic powers, or through ritual. (Basically, accessing the fundamental rules of creation to make the warp do what you want.) Basically, anyone can be a sorcerer with the right knowledge and willpower. Only psychics can be psykers.

[Grim Portent]

The whole Psyker/Sorcerer thing has been debated to death all over the net, but a lot of fluff is contradictory regarding them beyond the whole learned vs innate thing. I'm pretty sure the 5th ed Grey Knights codex said that there's no difference, but the RPGs all make a big fuss over them being different for example.

[TempAcc]

Yea, sorcery is supposedly the manipulation of the warp through rituals and other practices, instead of directly tapping into it, like psykers do. Sorcery is what the space wolves runepriests do, and if the space wolves are to be believed, they dont even tap into the warp, instead using some other force, attributed to their home planet, fenris. I think there's been lots of retcons around this and nobody is really sure anymore.

I think the sisters of battle also make use of sorcery through rituals, altough they claim to be chanelling the power of the emperor, and not the warp.

[Bohandas]

Does anybody else find it odd that events in the Warhammer 40k universe seem to occur one after the other in an orderly fashion despite the use of a method of interstellar travel that by all rights should cause even more temporal shenanigans than even traveling at relativistic speeds would.

[Tack]

I'd like to think that the astronomicon can keep the course 'relatively straight', the Tau never go deep enough to get the time-distortion effects and the Word Bearers have already proven that if they ever really feel like getting trapped in the past they can go back pretty darn far.