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Total Members Voted: 41

[Sarrak]

Ao stared at the screen in slight disbelieve. Normally, an ordinary beer - especially when your organs can purge alcohol intoxication at will - could not make you see things. Especially so complex and unusual ones. So, was it a foreign intervention or drink sideffect?

"More experiments are needed..."

Observe the screen while tasting another alcoholic beverage, to see if things change. 4 more essences which I'll never use.

[BlackHeartKabal]

5 essences.

[TheBiggerFish]

If I haven't made three essences this turn, make three essences.

[ironsnake345]

Nobody's activated their screens but me. It would seem this council call's fallen on deaf ears.

[Whisperling]

((Pretty sure the conference call is technically starting next turn, but I might as well open the floor now.))

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"Greetings. I am Viznor, seer and guardian of the Tower. Four mages, myself included, have built the magical network you see before you.

We wish to hold a second Council, this time with a clear goal in mind. There has been a great deal of conflict as of late, much of it due to differing opinions regarding the purpose of this place. Some desire a life of peaceful creation, others a violent contest. We seek to establish compromises and agreements which will accommodate both of these groups, as well as any others which may make themselves known."

[Elephant Parade]

Gloomy frowns to himself. "Is this the call, then? Bah. It'll end in murder and tears, just like everything else does here. I give us three turns before some enterprising killer tries to weaponize it."

[ironsnake345]

The system is watched over by a team of extremely dangrous wizards, and the last time someone tried to weaponize the tower I could just taste the death they met but a few minutes later. You needn't be so gloomy, my friend.

[Mallos]

"Is this really necessary? Can't we just divide into small groups and kill eachother? Nothing wrong with the status quo.. its fun enough as is. Plus, I get to test tons of things the College said was 'unethical and unreasonable'." Khozek frowns and slowly scratches his head at the screen in front of him.

[ironsnake345]

See, Skelliborn? this is exactly what I was talking about. This guy knows what's up. Murder, science, that's what this place is all about. To take only one is to deny half of existence in this tiny realm.

[Whisperling]

"This is precisely why I wish negotiate an agreement acceptable to both sides. There are some who believe those such as myself, who have tried to enforce peace, are oppressive, and those who would join a group and continue their participation in the tournament. However, there are others who do not wish to kill, and would rather be left in peace.

I propose that we find a way to segregate the peaceful and the violent, flexible borders or laws which allows us to determine where violence is and is not acceptable. Those who wish to do battle shall remain on one side of this "border," whether it be physical or metaphorical, and may kill as much as they desire without interference from peacekeepers. However, they may not interfere with those on the other side of the "border," where pacifism will be rigorously enforced."

[Mallos]

"This is precisely why I wish negotiate an agreement acceptable to both sides. There are some who believe those such as myself, who have tried to enforce peace, are oppressive, and those who would join a group and continue their participation in the tournament. However, there are others who do not wish to kill, and would rather be left in peace.

I propose that we find a way to segregate the peaceful and the violent, flexible borders or laws which allows us to determine where violence is and is not acceptable. Those who wish to do battle shall remain on one side of this "border," whether it be physical or metaphorical, and may kill as much as they desire without interference from peacekeepers. However, they may not interfere with those on the other side of the "border," where pacifism will be rigorously enforced."

"That defeats this pocket of space-time's purpose entirely.. it's fate that guided us here to the edges of space to do battle and warp the landscape beneath us. If you try to escape that fate, things will just get worse. I'm just taking my time and enjoying said fate through the addition of the pursuit of forbidden knowledge."

[XXXXYYYY]

"This is precisely why I wish negotiate an agreement acceptable to both sides. There are some who believe those such as myself, who have tried to enforce peace, are oppressive, and those who would join a group and continue their participation in the tournament. However, there are others who do not wish to kill, and would rather be left in peace.

I propose that we find a way to segregate the peaceful and the violent, flexible borders or laws which allows us to determine where violence is and is not acceptable. Those who wish to do battle shall remain on one side of this "border," whether it be physical or metaphorical, and may kill as much as they desire without interference from peacekeepers. However, they may not interfere with those on the other side of the "border," where pacifism will be rigorously enforced."

"That defeats this pocket of space-time's purpose entirely.. it's fate that guided us here to the edges of space to do battle and warp the landscape beneath us. If you try to escape that fate, things will just get worse. I'm just taking my time and enjoying said fate through the addition of the pursuit of forbidden knowledge."

"I would disagree, though I am not wholly in agreement with Viznor either. I believe that the divide between 'all violence is OK' and 'any violence at all is punished into oblivion' is perhaps too binary. I think that an agreed-upon set of rules, perhaps enforced either through agreed, generalized action or a persistent spell, to dissuade actions deemed intolerable would be more appropriate. Private groups, such as the Tower's folk, can enforce laws of their own within their domain - they have laid claim to it, after all - but those laws should not necessarily extend island-wide or even necessarily in a large area.

Though this area is primed for fighting, there is no decree on how those battles should be fought; some may attempt mass killings, while others may attempt to gain power through incremental duels and battles. A third group may refrain from direct combat entirely, preferring to sell empowered items to one side or the other or both. A fourth, even, may prefer to gain power slowly before suddenly killing multiple people, using their might and health to their advantage. A fifth may specialize in non-mage fights, and so on and so forth.
I will not pretend that the island is not, on some fundamental level, a violent place, but I think that we should shape that violence for the betterment of the arena as a whole."
3 essences.

[AoshimaMichio]

"Murder is inevitable."

Gloomy frowns to himself. "Is this the call, then? Bah. It'll end in murder and tears, just like everything else does here. I give us three turns before some enterprising killer tries to weaponize it."

"Greetings, wizard of curses, we meet again. I see you are in good health."

[Whisperling]

"That defeats this pocket of space-time's purpose entirely.. it's fate that guided us here to the edges of space to do battle and warp the landscape beneath us. If you try to escape that fate, things will just get worse. I'm just taking my time and enjoying said fate through the addition of the pursuit of forbidden knowledge."

"I do not wish to place undue constraints on violence. In fact, I would argue that groups such as T.O.A.M lift their restriction on unprovoked attacks, given that members adhere to a greater, if less stringent framework of laws made by this council. My purpose is merely to safeguard our creations, and to give some reprieve to those who would escape battle. Fate or no, I believe that to be a worthy goal."

"I would disagree, though I am not wholly in agreement with Viznor either. I believe that the divide between 'all violence is OK' and 'any violence at all is punished into oblivion' is perhaps too binary. I think that an agreed-upon set of rules, perhaps enforced either through agreed, generalized action or a persistent spell, to dissuade actions deemed intolerable would be more appropriate. Private groups, such as the Tower's folk, can enforce laws of their own within their domain - they have laid claim to it, after all - but those laws should not necessarily extend island-wide or even necessarily in a large area.

Though this area is primed for fighting, there is no decree on how those battles should be fought; some may attempt mass killings, while others may attempt to gain power through incremental duels and battles. A third group may refrain from direct combat entirely, preferring to sell empowered items to one side or the other or both. A fourth, even, may prefer to gain power slowly before suddenly killing multiple people, using their might and health to their advantage. A fifth may specialize in non-mage fights, and so on and so forth.
I will not pretend that the island is not, on some fundamental level, a violent place, but I think that we should shape that violence for the betterment of the arena as a whole."
3 essences.

"I will extend my agreement, if somewhat hesitantly. The mages of the Tower will always enforce peace upon our ground, and I suppose other groups might do so as well. Perhaps those who eschew protection must accept a risk of violence, though all should know that said protection is available.

I would, however, argue that simultaneous, mass killings are unacceptable, as are large-scale attacks against strongholds such as the Tower. The actions of Shias and Dwen would both fall under this category, as would the proposed attack by an army of fire elementals. Such moves are the greatest threat to our fledgeling society, to say nothing of creations which may be the product of long and hard work."

"Murder is inevitable."

"I no longer deny that, although I maintain that certain forms of it must be stopped."

[Mallos]

"And what makes you think you've got the skill and authority to stop a particularly clever mass-killer, Viznor? Why would it be you that stops them? The druid was a fool or he'd have tossed his stupid 'balance of nature' in the bin and joined me when he had the chance. If you ask me, your proposed laws are unlawful."