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Should freshly entering mages be given +10/+10 worth of random essences?

Yes
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No
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It should be more than that
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It should be less than that
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Re: Roll to magic
« Reply #5280 on: May 21, 2016, 10:56:28 pm »

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Re: Roll to Magic: Turn 160 New players and Sucessful rituals
« Reply #5281 on: May 22, 2016, 01:36:45 am »

That's actually not at all complicated.

But essences are confusing...

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Keep in mind that the broader your affinity is, the weaker it will be. Someone with the Cactus affinity would have much more control over cacti than someone with the Plant affinity would (unless the Plant affinity guy had a lot of shards). This isn't reflected with a direct bonus, by the way.
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Re: Roll to Magic: Turn 160 New players and Sucessful rituals
« Reply #5282 on: May 22, 2016, 02:54:20 am »

But essences are confusing...

Essences are simply stored roll bonuses. Creation of essence is a spell, and depending your rolls you get single essence out of it, usually one that gives +1 to both competence and potency rolls. You use those essences whenever you think your spell needs boost.
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Re: Roll to Magic: Turn 160 New players and Sucessful rituals
« Reply #5283 on: May 22, 2016, 03:18:12 am »

That's actually not at all complicated.

But essences are confusing...

((Ok, so, let me explain how essences work.
During any turn (which is not a combat turn, I'm pretty sure that's a rule) you can create essences as an action. Creating an essence is basically casting a spell, albeit one with no real effect. This makes essence creation much less risky than spells which can backfire and have you immolate yourself by accident, as the worst that happens when an essence backfires is that some random event related to your aspect happens nearby. It is for this reason that most people create multiple essences in one turn, despite the fact that one essence = one spell cast, and multiple spells per turn carries a penalty: -1 cmp roll and -1 pot roll for each spell previously cast.

Now that the mechanics are out of the way, here's the point: an essence is a non-physical pattern of magic in your thoughts; basically a pre-charged spell which has yet to be given an effect and then cast. Maybe that's a bad analogy. Anyway, when you're casting a spell, you can choose to use essences from your essence inventory (basically infinite space since essences are not physical; visible in your character's block on the charsheet) and their bonuses will be added to the rolls made when determining how well your spell went. In the case of essences which have multiple bonuses, the listed bonuses are ordered competency first, potency second. Warning, though: essences take time to infuse into your spell, and each essence used will decrease dexterity rolls made to dodge by 0.5, and will decrease the speed roll to act first by 1. This absolutely stacks.
Oh, and, there's a limit of 5 essences per spell.

How an essence's power is determined, as my understanding goes, is what roll the essence creation spell succeeds with. For each spell, two dice are rolled: one for competency, which can only be enhanced by special means, and one for potency, which is a character stat. If the essence creation spell succeeds on competency it gains a cmp bonus, and the same goes for the potency roll. However, in the event of an overshot success (rolling a 6) something goes a bit wrong. Cmp overshots lead to pot penalties in the essence, and pot overshots turn the essence chaotic, meaning DG gets to screw with you when you cast a spell using the essence. (I.E. something random happens. DG does not actually screw with people all that much)

Now that I've gone over that in immaculate detail, the tl;dr version. When it's not a slugfest, you can cast a spell to make an essence. You can cast all the spells you want in a single turn, one essence per spell, but each extra spell has a -1/-1 which stacks. You can hold as many essences as you damn well want and pour up to five into one spell, which adds their bonuses to the spell's rolls. Each essence has a -0.5 to dodging and a -1 to going first when used in a slugfest. What bonuses an essence gets depends on how well you roll when you cast the spell to make it, but overshooting makes it get all funky. If the creation spell fails, your power seeps into the nearby area and does something.))

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Re: Roll to Magic: Turn 160 New players and Sucessful rituals
« Reply #5284 on: May 22, 2016, 04:43:16 am »

((Ok, so, let me explain how essences work.
During any turn (which is not a combat turn, I'm pretty sure that's a rule) you can create essences as an action. Creating an essence is basically casting a spell, albeit one with no real effect. This makes essence creation much less risky than spells which can backfire and have you immolate yourself by accident, as the worst that happens when an essence backfires is that some random event related to your aspect happens nearby. It is for this reason that most people create multiple essences in one turn, despite the fact that one essence = one spell cast, and multiple spells per turn carries a penalty: -1 cmp roll and -1 pot roll for each spell previously cast.

You can create essences durning combat, but chances are you'll be bussy trying to melt other guys head.
Now that the mechanics are out of the way, here's the point: an essence is a non-physical pattern of magic in your thoughts; basically a pre-charged spell which has yet to be given an effect and then cast. Maybe that's a bad analogy. Anyway, when you're casting a spell, you can choose to use essences from your essence inventory (basically infinite space since essences are not physical; visible in your character's block on the charsheet) and their bonuses will be added to the rolls made when determining how well your spell went. In the case of essences which have multiple bonuses, the listed bonuses are ordered competency first, potency second. Warning, though: essences take time to infuse into your spell, and each essence used will decrease dexterity rolls made to dodge by 0.5, and will decrease the speed roll to act first by 1. This absolutely stacks.
Oh, and, there's a limit of 5 essences per spell.

Actually, there is a limit of +5/+5 per spell, the number of essences is unlimited.
How an essence's power is determined, as my understanding goes, is what roll the essence creation spell succeeds with. For each spell, two dice are rolled: one for competency, which can only be enhanced by special means, and one for potency, which is a character stat. If the essence creation spell succeeds on competency it gains a cmp bonus, and the same goes for the potency roll. However, in the event of an overshot success (rolling a 6) something goes a bit wrong. Cmp overshots lead to pot penalties in the essence, and pot overshots turn the essence chaotic, meaning DG gets to screw with you when you cast a spell using the essence. (I.E. something random happens. DG does not actually screw with people all that much)

CMP overshots make essences Chaotic. POT overshots do nothing. POT undershots also do nothing much, while CMP fails cause spell to go haywire.


That's actually not at all complicated.

But essences are confusing...

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Re: Roll to Magic: Turn 160 New players and Sucessful rituals
« Reply #5285 on: May 22, 2016, 07:10:15 am »

"And stay out!"

Feed all +1/+1 chaotic essences to tome. +3 essences, as usual.

{You have no chaotic +1/+1 essences. Only +2/+1 and +2/+2.}
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Re: Roll to Magic: Turn 160 New players and Sucessful rituals
« Reply #5286 on: May 22, 2016, 07:13:05 am »

((Reflecting magic, copying magic, dispelling magic.  And metamagic and stuff.))
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« Reply #5287 on: May 22, 2016, 07:14:50 am »

((Reflecting magic, copying magic, dispelling magic.  And metamagic and stuff.))

((Thats pretty much what Jase/Beirus does with his Aether afinity.))
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« Reply #5288 on: May 22, 2016, 07:16:56 am »

((*shrug?*))
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« Reply #5289 on: May 22, 2016, 07:27:09 am »

((*shrug?*))

((What I'm saying is that if you want to do all that stuff you should take Aether afinity. It will make what you can and can't do clearer to everyone. Also, you'll be able to look through what has allready been done with it if you run out of ideas.))
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« Reply #5290 on: May 22, 2016, 07:34:27 am »

((Ah.  Edited.))
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« Reply #5291 on: May 22, 2016, 10:09:12 am »

((Ah.  Edited.))
((Also, you can take an action the turn that you enter the game. I would recommend making essences (and possibly moving)))
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Re: Roll to Magic: Turn 160 New players and Sucessful rituals
« Reply #5292 on: May 22, 2016, 11:10:40 am »

Well, arrive, make three Essences, and get away from things that might be trying to kill me.
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Re: Roll to Magic: Turn 160 New players and Sucessful rituals
« Reply #5293 on: May 22, 2016, 11:17:04 am »

Well, arrive, make three Essences, and get away from things that might be trying to kill me.

((Might I suggest essence roulette? It's the perfect time, since the gate protects you from harm.

Essence roulette is making essences until one fails. That triggers a luck roll, and you get an effect depending on the roll and your affinity. Good luck gets you fun stuff, bad luck usually results in some sort of injury, which the gate should protect  against rather easily.))
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« Reply #5294 on: May 22, 2016, 11:18:16 am »

Feed it three +2/+1 chaotic curse essences, then. Put on all three rings, and then conjure up five more essences, stopping early if something unpleasant happens.
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