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Nosgoth - Dead-ass game
« on: June 23, 2014, 06:12:16 am »

This one completely slipped under the radar, for me and apparently for the rest of Bay12.


Nosgoth is an arena shooter in "closed beta," meaning you can buy your way in with a few nice bonuses or get a hold of a beta key from one of several sources.  It features 4v4 asymmetrical team combat between between humans and vampires.  Humans focus on ranged attacks while vampires are mostly melee.  In a lot of ways it resembles an arena-based Left 4 Dead. 

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As it currently stands the game feels reasonably balanced, though it doesn't always feel that way.  It's a very teamwork-centric game.  At low levels the vampires usually win and games come down to which team is best at humans (games follow a two-round format where each team plays both sides.  Whoever scores the most kills over both rounds wins).  This is mainly because humans require a lot of coordination to succeed; one on one any vampire will usually beat any human, so if both teams are disorganized the vampires will always win.  At higher levels where players are experienced and coordinated vampires begin to struggle.  A lot.  A coordinated human team has answers for just about everything the vampires do, and most of the balance patches released so far have been about toning down the humans, despite what you might read in reviews and the like on Steam.

Despite that it's pretty fun.  The F2P aspects aren't too onerous, there's just the issue of item rentals.  You have gold and "runestones," and all gameplay-related items can be bought with gold except new classes, which can be bought with a token you get every five experience levels.  Items like weapons and abilities can be "rented" for seven days or they can be bought permanently for significantly more gold or runestones.  This has caused quite a stir but I don't really see the issue.  Most items can be rented in three or four games (games are maybe 20 minutes long) and last a week which is quite a while.  So far I'm not feeling any pressure to use runestones equipment even with the rental issue.

Oh, another apparently big issue.  If the name didn't tip you off this game is set in the Legacy of Kain universe.  There's been a sizable stir over this, diehard Legacy of Kain fans are pretty angry that their long-awaited sequel is an arena shooter.  PErsonally I didn't realize there was such a thing as diehard Legacy of Kain fans, but alright.

It's good casual fun I think, I love the Alchemist and Deceiver classes but Tyrant is a lot of fun as well.  Tyrant carries bad vampire teams on his back.  They're apparently planning on making Nosgoth a serious competitive esport but I don't really see it happening with the amount of content they've currently got.  They've got their work cut out for them if they want that.
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Re: Nosgoth - F2P Humans vs Vampires on Early Access
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2014, 01:48:01 pm »

I have received 3 closed beta invites. So you can try the game for free :p

If anyone here is interested in this game, just grab one.

It says you have to register with the website (www.nosgoth.com) but maybe they work in steam too, I don't know.

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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2014, 02:25:23 pm »

I'm one of those diehard LoK fans. While I'm not upset at the existence of this game, I do lament that we still don't have a continuation/conclusion to the main series. Michael Bell, the voice of Raziel, is now 75 years old-- it's unlikely we'll ever have an ending to the saga. And it's a real shame, because LoK has one of the most masterfully written stories in all of gaming history.

Nosgoth looks... um... interesting, I guess? In a "why did we need this" sort of way. But it's not like the main LoK team has anything to do with it, so it's not exactly stealing time or resources away from a sequel. It just exists, and that's okay IMO.
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Re: Nosgoth - F2P Humans vs Vampires on Early Access
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2014, 02:21:35 am »

Gonna say this...
I love it, though the Ping is terrible for being an Aussie, I can still get around 7 or so kills with few deaths as both Vamp or Human (as long as the rest of the team doesn't do "I am awesome Lonewolf, wat BS HACKS I DIED! RAGEQUIT!!!" shit...

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Re: Nosgoth - F2P Humans vs Vampires on Early Access
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2014, 11:53:08 am »

I'm interested in this. May I have one?
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Re: Nosgoth - F2P Humans vs Vampires on Early Access
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2014, 02:43:18 pm »

If anyone has a spare key, i'd love to grab one.
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Re: Nosgoth - F2P Humans vs Vampires on Early Access
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2014, 04:04:27 pm »

I personally bought my way in after the free weekend (not realizing that you could get free keys. Whoops) and I've gotta say that it's very fun. I'm a fan of the scout class, because executing a weakened reaver that's ripping into a teammate with a fully drawn arrow is quite a satisfying feeling. Overall, weapons in general have some solid weight behind them; the crossbow makes plinking plinking sounds, explosives reduce vampires into showers of gore and vital organs, and the prophet is... weird. I don't really understand what he does, besides being the comic relief character solely in looks with that goofy skull-helmet.
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Re: Nosgoth - F2P Humans vs Vampires on Early Access
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2014, 03:29:52 am »

I'm one of those diehard LoK fans. While I'm not upset at the existence of this game, I do lament that we still don't have a continuation/conclusion to the main series. Michael Bell, the voice of Raziel, is now 75 years old-- it's unlikely we'll ever have an ending to the saga. And it's a real shame, because LoK has one of the most masterfully written stories in all of gaming history.

Nosgoth looks... um... interesting, I guess? In a "why did we need this" sort of way. But it's not like the main LoK team has anything to do with it, so it's not exactly stealing time or resources away from a sequel. It just exists, and that's okay IMO.

I seem to remember the most recent game (defiance) wrapped everything up pretty well. I'll admit it's been quite a long time since I played it, but I seem to remember it tied up most or all of the loose ends and brought the series to a reasonably satisfactory conclusion. I don't remember feeling like another game in the series was necessary, it felt complete as it was.

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Re: Nosgoth - F2P Humans vs Vampires on Early Access
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2014, 05:13:42 am »

He probably wouldn't be an active entity but he could still voice the soul reaver as Kain goes around doing his Kain thing. Sort of springboarding into a God of War style plot (that is, one variably ultra powerful dude wrecking vengeance on the universe), since the gameplay already kind of parallels that (though God of War is better in that regard, being more focused on that and flashy graphics over story, and having the resources to do it).
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Re: Nosgoth - F2P Humans vs Vampires on Early Access
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2014, 12:11:48 am »

The game is fantastic, altough the Party system does not work, which is a major issue for me. They spooled up a patch and went into maintenance yesterday before I went into bed, so it might be fixed now.

About LoK in general. Afaik there was another sequel planned, but never made it to a release. I remember playing Soul Reaver and Blood Omen way back, and a third one I cant remember the name of. It would be cool to have another game in the series, altough i'm not sure if we will see a Singleplayer LoK game again.
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Re: Nosgoth - F2P Humans vs Vampires on Early Access
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2014, 06:10:52 am »

I wouldn't mind a key if anyone has any left.
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Re: Nosgoth - F2P Humans vs Vampires on Early Access
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2015, 01:45:52 am »

Open beta.  Just tried my first couple rounds.  Anyone else playing this?
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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2015, 02:35:18 am »

I seem to remember the most recent game (defiance) wrapped everything up pretty well. I'll admit it's been quite a long time since I played it, but I seem to remember it tied up most or all of the loose ends and brought the series to a reasonably satisfactory conclusion. I don't remember feeling like another game in the series was necessary, it felt complete as it was.

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Re: Nosgoth - F2P Humans vs Vampires on Early Access
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2015, 04:45:29 pm »

Asymmetrical games like this are pretty cool, I think I'll check this out. Not a big fan of the theme, but there are some interesting classes on Team Edward that look fun regardless.
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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2015, 05:14:10 pm »

It's quite fun and runs very well for me.
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