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Plac1d

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Re: Toady: Milk does a body good
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2007, 08:08:00 am »

Harvest a cocoa bean plant and you got yourself some dwarven chocolate milk!
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Re: Toady: Milk does a body good
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2007, 09:45:00 am »

The gene that is responsible for making the enzym that allows us to digest cowmilk is very much of a newcomer. It also developed only locally. If you look at the Asian population, most people have a "cowmilk allergy". This allergy is in fact the natural state for our ancestors.
And indeed, which mammal except for man drinks milk after it's infancy? None AFAIK. Milk is, among other things, bad for the slimeproduction, heavy to digest and indeed bad for bones (even more so as you age). The goverment fairytale of milk being very good came into existence only because of HUGE overproduction. In holland we called it "de melkplas en de boterberg" (The milk-lake and the buttermountain). One other reason, in Europe at least, to promote drinking milk, was the period after the second world war. People were underfed and milk is quite rich in energy. Which is a fact but that does not make milk healthy. Since I studied biology at university, I never drink milk anymore -and hey, still haven't broken any bones-. I think it is not so bad for children to drink milk now and then to get some extra proteins and energy but I think every day can't be good. Some recent research is also linking excessive use of milk to colon-cancer but I haven't checked on the results for a while.
In short: I advise, as a biologist, against drinking milk often.
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Re: Toady: Milk does a body good
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2007, 10:36:00 am »

in other news: So, Toady, when are we going to be able to milk domestic animals?   ;)
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Re: Toady: Milk does a body good
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2007, 11:25:00 am »

I don't think milk ought to be a very high priority. Even if milk wasn't bad for you, do you think dwarfs should sit around drinking glasses of milk and eating breakfast cereals? Milk is for elves!
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Re: Toady: Milk does a body good
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2007, 12:52:00 pm »

Dwarves drink alcohol, people. Everyone knows the only purpose milk serves for the dwarves is to make *dwarven cheese*. Dwarven cheese, which is the best kind of cheese, comes from purring maggot milk. Why would the dwarves be interested in inferior cow cheese, or any other kind for that matter?

Though I suppose the stupid humans might like cow cheese in trade, since they bring it so often.

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Re: Toady: Milk does a body good
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2007, 01:47:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by BurnedToast:
<STRONG>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumis

A much better use for milk then making cheese.</STRONG>


I need to try this stuff... I wonder if they will sell it in an offlicence?

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Re: Toady: Milk does a body good
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2007, 02:00:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Fenrir:
<STRONG>Even if milk wasn't bad for you, do you think dwarfs should sit around drinking glasses of milk and eating breakfast cereals? </STRONG>

quote:
Originally posted by Turgid Bolk:
<STRONG>Dwarves drink alcohol, people.</STRONG>

See:

quote:
Originally posted by BurnedToast:
<STRONG>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumis

A much better use for milk then making cheese.</STRONG>


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Re: Toady: Milk does a body good
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2007, 02:04:00 pm »

Yes yes and in the wild, animals kill each other for wandering into the wrong neighborhood and rape wantonly because it's the natural thing to do, etc, etc, etc.

The whole argument that we should be doing what animals do is ridiculous and bizarre - you're arguing the point on an electronic bulletin board with a plastic keyboard.

Milk is not bad for you if you can digest it.  End of story.

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Re: Toady: Milk does a body good
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2007, 02:23:00 pm »

quote:
Originally posted by Geofferic:
<STRONG>Milk is not bad for you if you can digest it.  End of story.</STRONG>

Mmm...arsenic. Sorry, but this is a ridiculous argument. Plenty of stuff that you can digest is bad for you; and furthermore digestable != healthy. McDonalds food is a good example.

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Re: Toady: Milk does a body good
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2007, 02:38:00 pm »

Reading comprehension.

Milk is not bad for you if you can digest it.

This is not an assertion that, if one can digest something, it cannot be bad for you.

This is an assertion that, let me type it again:

Milk is not bad for you if you can digest it.

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Re: Toady: Milk does a body good
« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2007, 03:00:00 pm »

Why is it that threads always get hijacked by militant vegans or militant atheists?
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Re: Toady: Milk does a body good
« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2007, 03:35:00 pm »

Milk is murder!
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Re: Toady: Milk does a body good
« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2007, 03:53:00 pm »

Let purring maggots susurrate!
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Re: Toady: Milk does a body good
« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2007, 04:37:00 pm »

I will now push this tread over the edge by these statements:

Milk tastes good so you should drink it regales of healthiness!
Macdonald's is evil because chops down the rain forest!

*Armok pokes the antstack whit the -true statements-!
It collapses into a flame war!*  :D

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Re: Toady: Milk does a body good
« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2007, 06:31:00 pm »

Isn't there a difference between comparing human behavion r to animal behavior and comparing physiology (what's bad for your body)? Even then, you would be surprised how much of our 'complex social behavior' is a simple derivate of animal ethology. As in 'motivation conflicts, equal motivation leading to non-associative behavior, classic conditioning, etc.. Jut read up on it if you're interested.
I don't believe that the development of speech and inherent to that the development of culture and knowledge places us above all comparison to animals.
Especially when it comes to physiology and the chemistry of our digeestive system.
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