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Yes, he was awesome!

9 (6%)

Yes, for reasons I will post in the thread.

4 (2.7%)

No, and I hate fun and I like to step on cats.

30 (20%)

No, for a NON HATEFUL, LEGITIMATE REASON i will post in the thread.

54 (36%)

I take a neutral stance on this.

38 (25.3%)

Who is GWG?

15 (10%)

Total Members Voted: 150

[Playergamer]

Guardsman, I was in that thread that got him banned, I can link it if you want. The argument was about the definition of the phrase Civil War.

[Remuthra]

Regardless of any extenuating circumstances, rules are rules. Similarly, I don't think GWG means to cause the problems he does, but his banning was nothing if not just due process.

[Imperial Guardsman]

Link it. Ill see for myself.

[Remuthra]

Argument was removed by Toady at the same time as the ban.

[Frumple]

Plus, hasn't he been muted several times already? That seems like plenty of extra chances.

This. Critter was muted multiple times and probably warned more than that, with apparently no effect. From what I've seen in the moderation logs, there's been more chances given than normally are. GWG chose to use those chances to continue making the bed they're now laying in, and that's pretty much that.

[Playergamer]

Oh, uh... The argument itself was deleted. Here's what's left.

Edit: Basically, GWG and Rolep took a couple of 50 post pages arguing over the exact definition of civil war.

[Remuthra]

I still have it on browser cache, but I doubt Toady wants it seen again.

[Putnam]

Guardsman, I was in that thread that got him banned, I can link it if you want. The argument was about the definition of the phrase Civil War.

The ban was about the "seven warnings and a few mutes for this very infraction", which basically means that he refused to change his behavior when given some very clear reasons to do so.

Toady doesn't ban popular forum members lightly. This is reasonable.

[darkpaladin109]

.....NO
Like Playergamer, I didn't exactly hate or dislike GWG, and he was nice some of the time. That being said, he most certainly does not deserve another chance, given that he was muted two times thus far, so he had plenty of chances to better himself.

[Again_Dejavu]

Anyways. gone now.

This is what, the third or fourth time you've said that? In this thread?

Something from him and Sanure that wasn't deleted, relatively tame compared to the removed stuff.

[Playergamer]

Yeah, I know, I was just saying that the final argument wasn't exactly something I feel would be a personally damaging argument for GWG.

[~Neri]

I say no, I primarily recall him arguing until he got his way, several threads I have been in devolved into his rants. I also recall several people explaining to him calmly what he was doing wrong, and I recall no changes with his behavior after his warnings and mutes.

I see no reason to unban him besides popularity. Sorreh. I'm against this.

[Putnam]

It's pretty much the same thing as getting expelled from a school for stealing a pair of scissors or something. It's not because you stole the scissors, it's because you've already cleared out the tool boxes and backpacks of a bunch of people beforehand.

[GiglameshDespair]

I just removed another giant insult-ridden argument between GWG and somebody.  This despite at least seven warnings and a few mutes for this very infraction.  I'm tired of cleaning up after GWG, so GWG has been banned.  Please adjust your games as necessary.

...even if it wasn't his fault to start with, he made it his fault when he never let goddamn anything go. The writing on the wall was clear for him, and it was his choice to not to read. Toady is certainly not unjust in his action.

He's been told before what he's been doing wrong, punished for it, and continued. This is not a surprise, and regardless of personal feelings there isn't a legitimate reason to bring him back.

[Remuthra]

Quite similar to the arguments over punishment for repeat offenses, really. It's not the crime, it's the fact that you still didn't learn your lesson and so something more forceful needs to be done.