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Re: DF2014 in 6 lines?
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2014, 02:15:43 pm »

It also added pulping, which completely changes the mechanics of undead fighting and makes blunt weapons act differently in general.

Would anyone be able to explain further about the "pulping" mechanic, or could someone direct me to a location where I can read about it? Is this similar to the "smashed into the body, an unrecognisable mass" thing?
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Re: DF2014 in 6 lines?
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2014, 02:58:09 pm »

It's exactly that. Reducing a part to an unusable mass of tissue.

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« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2014, 03:04:50 pm »

It's exactly that. Reducing a part to an unusable mass of tissue.

I always preferred those combat messages from 40d/23a. I especially liked "It collapses into a lump of gore!" and "It explodes in gore!" for blunt wounds.
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Re: DF2014 in 6 lines?
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2014, 03:20:46 pm »

The main problem with those is that they weren't anything more than glorified hit points, about as complex as Fallout.

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« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2014, 03:28:58 pm »

The main problem with those is that they weren't anything more than glorified hit points, about as complex as Fallout.

This is very true, but it was still pretty cool. Maybe the messages could be incorporated into the current system?
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Re: DF2014 in 6 lines?
« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2014, 03:44:46 pm »

They are, just more... specific. "Your stomach is torn badly" is now "tearing the muscle and tearing the stomach". "It is mangled" is... about the same thing as of next version, actually.

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« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2014, 03:47:21 pm »

They are, just more... specific. "Your stomach is torn badly" is now "tearing the muscle and tearing the stomach". "It is mangled" is... about the same thing as of next version, actually.

Sometimes I think the details can be a bit too specific. If I kick an elf in the chest I don't necessarily need to know that I bruised his fat. Maybe there could be layers of announcements where we get a surface level one like "your stomach is torn badly", and if we really want to we can look further and find out exactly what is torn.
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Re: DF2014 in 6 lines?
« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2014, 11:29:47 am »

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Re: DF2014 in 6 lines?
« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2014, 07:45:14 pm »

They are, just more... specific. "Your stomach is torn badly" is now "tearing the muscle and tearing the stomach". "It is mangled" is... about the same thing as of next version, actually.

Sometimes I think the details can be a bit too specific. If I kick an elf in the chest I don't necessarily need to know that I bruised his fat. Maybe there could be layers of announcements where we get a surface level one like "your stomach is torn badly", and if we really want to we can look further and find out exactly what is torn.
On the other hand, if his liver sails off in an arc, we really do want to know that it is in fact his liver and not just a generic blob of fat.

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Re: DF2014 in 6 lines?
« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2014, 05:20:50 pm »

Yeah, fighting is just going to get more strange until Toady does a few more overhauls. Not that I mind being able to somehow grapple an opponent's back tooth with my lower leg. :P
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Re: DF2014 in 6 lines?
« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2014, 08:06:16 pm »

It's exactly that. Reducing a part to an unusable mass of tissue.
Hmm. Wonder how dwarf medical care will handle that. Amputation? Stitches? A kiss on the booboo and a boot back to work? Could you get dwarfs crawling around with 4 lumps of pulped tissue for limbs as well as you can currently get quadriplegic dwarfs with all limbs removed? The video game cruelty potential just got higher.
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Re: DF2014 in 6 lines?
« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2014, 08:31:32 pm »

I'm wondering how far a dwarf can be pulped while still remaining alive and capable of fetching its own food and water. Perhaps we'll be able to have horrible, sloughing masses of mangled flesh crawling around the fortress looking for a nice barrel of plump helmet wine in the future.
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Re: DF2014 in 6 lines?
« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2014, 07:29:27 pm »

I'm wondering how far a dwarf can be pulped while still remaining alive and capable of fetching its own food and water. Perhaps we'll be able to have horrible, sloughing masses of mangled flesh crawling around the fortress looking for a nice barrel of plump helmet wine in the future.

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Re: DF2014 in 6 lines?
« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2014, 07:44:41 pm »

I can just imagine the science labs that are going to be set up to test how "pulped" a dwarf can be before they die. Those poor migrant cheesemakers.
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