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[ThtblovesDF]

Also, I love missle spam, but missles lag the game to hell since piles of several 100'ds start forming that missed targets and are just floating on the water.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

I'd really like to see a well-made diesel punk fleet battle.

Anyways, my main problem with this game is that since the sky's the limit no one's really concerned about making cool looking ships... it's all just about making these terribly OP, boxy death-contraptions. It's most of what's put me off of MP thus far. Don't get me wrong, I see a lot of people making these replica ships, but I never see anyone use them. Alternatively, many of them barely function or are also not well balanced. Why can't we make cool-looking ships that are balanced against each other and also pack a moderate punch without gimmicks?

[Graknorke]

Aavak's ships usually look pretty nice as a form from function thing, but also tend to fall under the almighty boot of his missile fetishism so take that as you will.

Anyway, I think the reason why it's so common to build boxes of weaponry and not much else is because there's not much pressure to make something that maneuvers well, and because there's no structural limits on how big you can build a thing.

[NullForceOmega]

One turn and IR sensor, it's all you need (okay, and some fuel, a motor, and probably some warheads and fins, but c'mon).

[NullForceOmega]

One turn forces all missiles in a group to make an initial turn towards whatever you/the AI has targeted.  I use a pretty basic 5 block (that's 10 components) missile using, from bottom to top: an engine, two tanks, two fins, one turn, one of the enhanced tracking things, one each of the explosive and frag warheads and an IR sensor, very effective.

[Graknorke]

Without a turn they wouldn't have pointed towards the target at all. So the IR sensor couldn't have picked it up to track.

NINJAD: Yeah that.

[Girlinhat]

Question/Challenge: Anyone made a vessel that can descend as a submarine, and then fly into the air?

[Gabeux]

Would just like to add my Seal of Approval (as if I had any credibility or rep to do that).
I tried the game yesterday and really liked it!

The interface is ugly, and it's rather hard to build a ship that doesn't tip over. But I love how the dev REALLY prioritized learning the game as fast as possible, with the visual guides and all that.
The "fill" feature really blew my mind. That thing when you press F and it fills up a 'framed' (hollow? my english failing) area. The P feature, "minimize blocks", too.

I made a weird battleship thing that took me HOURS to build, and it still derps. I wonder if I'm stupid, or if the game's really hard.
Once I imported it to the campaign, even though it's a rather noob-ship, it killed everything from the DWG...but I guess they are the easiest, noobest faction.
It only scores 1.7 on the test, so it sucks for anything other than a day-one noob ship.

I also like how you could just download ships and play the game strategically. Or build your own ships and solely focus on arena-style battles. Really admired all that, not sure why I didn't know the game until I watched a Robbaz video about it, though.

Here's the Laststanderer: because it was a last attempt at making a boat that floats, or I'd quit the game and accept a miserable defeat.

Spoiler: He's not tipping over at all. Just a little sleepy. (click to show/hide)

6 missiles, a torpedo, a 360 no-scope turret and some silly simple weapons. That's how you show how creative and smart you are...to 10 year olds or something.

Anyways, loved the game. If I get any skill with it, I'd love to make a submarine that launches torpedo-missiles (I THINK that can work? But from what I tested it seemed to weigh more or to use more fuel), in the hopes that I can make airships useless and eat through boats. I'm REALLY bad at building things in this game though, so I'm not sure if that's even practical.

[majikero]

Question/Challenge: Anyone made a vessel that can descend as a submarine, and then fly into the air?

Make a normal sub but use ion thrusters.
Put balloons.
??
Flying sub.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

Question/Challenge: Anyone made a vessel that can descend as a submarine, and then fly into the air?

Make a normal sub but use ion thrusters.
Put balloons.
??
Flying sub.

Actually, it's probably possible to make a dual-propulsion craft that can dive using fins and still be compact enough with enough wing space to take off. After all, someone made a battleship that turns into a spacecraft.

[majikero]

Honestly, if I want to make things fly, I just put balloons on them. Hell I put balloons on things just to keep some from sinking.

[Urist McScoopbeard]

Honestly, if I want to make things fly, I just put balloons on them. Hell I put balloons on things just to keep some from sinking.

stop it, stop it. The game tracks buoyancy.

[majikero]

I know but I can't build anything that won't tip over.

[LoSboccacc]

game is not hard, but you need to learn loads of tricks:

make the turrets start from the bottom of the hull, with cannon connector going up trough the deck where the firing piece is to have the center of mass low

don't neglect fins to missiles, laser pointer instead of ir is good if your enemy have lots of decoys but that doesn't work well with the target prediction, remember a hit for low damage is better than a miss and for that frag at 180deg + frag at 10deg + proximity fuse works well

and sometime just a fast firing but precise enough cannon works well as AA

sometimes enemy offense is just overwhelming, multiple small ship works wonder against that

if a ship is stable enough and flips sometime, you can add a balloon with two automated control blocks on top of it at some distance from the waterline; have an acb open baloon below 0 mt and the other sever baloon after a delay above 0 mt

a volume without water pumps is not as buoyant if open and not above the waterline


jet require power to work (yeah I keep forgotting about that and look stupidly at my non moving planes like ALL THE TIME then put an engine)


use precision turrets all the time when you make non exposed turrets, the other one wobbles. have the barrel for the cannon built with 50% motor barrel, 25% elevator and 25% recoil suppress so it elevates by itself and the turret only need to rotate (actual % may vary)


laser is hard, but laser is king. I?m sad about that because I love cannons and missiles and all my ships are low tech where possible. missile flares are going to change that, but DAMN that ammunition costs

[Graknorke]

I know but I can't build anything that won't tip over.

Keels. KEEEELS.
Also building the top wider than the bottom helps. Rather than just being a prism in the water.