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Keldane

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I would like to write.
« on: June 11, 2014, 08:20:47 pm »

I would like to write, and hopefully get published, and I'm somewhat lacking in confidence in my work. I also have no idea how to get my work out there. I don't have the advantage of any post-secondary education, either. I'm here today to post something I wrote earlier in the year, and to hopefully get some feedback on it. It's not incredibly long, and I've spoilered it for length nonetheless.

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I'd appreciate any and all constructive criticism, feedback, and advice that you good folks have to offer. If it makes a difference, I'm located not too far from Vancouver, BC, so going through American publishing agencies is (I'm guessing) not really an option. Thoughts?
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Re: I would like to write.
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2014, 03:49:25 am »

For feedback, try popping it in The Writer's Apprenticeship, although it looks pretty good to me (apart from "good evening" being two words by convention).

LordBucket's a professional editor, or something close to, so he should be able to help you with the rest if he sees this thread.
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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2014, 07:29:09 am »

I would like to write, and hopefully get published

Hello. I'm leaving for Vegas soon, so don't really have time to respond in detail.

Short version: your writing is plenty good enough. I've worked with published authors who don't write nearly as well. Yes, there are a few mistakes. I saw two words missing spaces between them, you incorrectly used a semicolon with a dependent clause, some other stuff. Minor stuff. Again: your writing is plenty good enough.

But writing quality is a very small part of becoming a novelist, and the market is already completely glutted with fiction. If you want to write, then write. I spend a lot of time on fimfiction, for example, and there are a lot of excellent writers there. It's easy to pick up readers. But if your goal is to make money as a writer, writing fiction is not the way to do it.

Here are a few threads with relevant discussion:

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=133262.5
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=113061

Go ahead and read those, and I'll check in to answer questions when I get back from Vegas.

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Re: I would like to write.
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2014, 11:48:06 am »

I wanted to pop back in after seeing this when it was first posted to say, don't be discouraged by lack of feedback for this. Writing more than anything suffers from being presented as a sketch. It's not like seeing the pencil outline of a portrait, it's closer to seeing the nose, fully lit and rendered, up-close and in full view. It's a good nose. Perhaps the finest we've ever examined in the medium of choice. But to the casual viewer, it's a painting of a nose, and only you have the rest of the portrait in mind.

And yeah, the market for fiction writing is unbelievably brutal and pyramid scheme-ish. But once you're published, you can point at what you've done, and be like "HA mothaf*ckas! I'm immortal! Feed me grapes!" so that it's worth it all the same. Don't worry about your audience size, don't worry about getting published just yet, just write to the best of your ability (which as LordBucket says, is pretty damn good - you got me interested) and get it out there when it's done :)
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Re: I would like to write.
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2014, 12:52:39 pm »

I'm back from Vegas if you have specific questions.

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Re: I would like to write.
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2014, 06:13:56 pm »

Thank you to you three for the feedback. It's not often anyone outside of my family/current partner sees anything I've written, so I've come to assume a certain amount of bias when they say I write well. I really appreciate the compliments.

In regards to my intent, being able to make sufficient money to support myself would be the ideal. I don't necessarily want to become the next author to achieve worldwide fame (though, really, I wouldn't object). I have no qualms about writing magazine articles or anything like that if that gets me where I want to be, and I feel like I'd enjoy writing fiction more than anything else, simply because it lets my imagination free.

In regards to the grammatical errors, I always want to improve my work. I'm curious, what would have been the correct way to punctuate the sentence with the semicolon?

At this time, I'm thinking I'll spend at least the next week looking for magazines related to my interests that I can get more information on submitting articles to. As I live in a touristy town, I'll also look for local publications that review restaurants, movies, and events. LordBucket, would you have any recommendations of sites that are either Canadian or have no issue in accepting submissions from Canadians? I don't really care whether or not they pay anything for published articles, and I'm certainly willing to do the legwork myself, and since you're the one with experience I feel like I'd be making a mistake if I didn't at least ask.  :P

I feel it may be worth noting that I also have an interest in making games. It's a bit off topic, and if anyone happens to have any links to free programming or scripting tutorials, I would appreciate those as well. I'm not completely unfamiliar with programming - I'm currently taking a program through Coursera that's providing an introduction to Python, and in the past I've endeavored to pick up C++ - and I feel like anything geared towards beginners would be my best bet.
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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2014, 11:40:24 pm »

I believe the Outlander series got its start by being posted in pieces on the usenets. Some agent saw it. That is a one in a million shot. I read some SF author blogs periodically and they post about it. To get short stories published you have to submit to places that publish short stories. Google them. To get a book published you need to write and finish a manuscript and spend alot of time on it. Then google book agents. Look for agents that represent the type of work you do and follow their submission instructions exactly. Then wait...

Occassionally publishing companies accept blind submissions, but usually not.

The odds are very low to get books published and don't expect much money. I think a typical advance for a first book is like $6000. Thats after you sell it.

I am not an expert in this, so you should google around. Don't submit to agents until you have a book worthy of submitting. For short stories you have to google the places that publish them. Keep in mind this is very little money and most published authors have other sources of income including day jobs.
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