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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: Game mechanics fun time
« Reply #8595 on: January 22, 2015, 11:37:47 am »

If oxidizing things is wind magic, then wind magic is also fire mavic considering that fire is pretty much the plasma of oxidated particles.
But fire needs fuel, in the case of magic fire that would be mana that's made to be used as a fuel source. Air magic mana obviously isn't able to do that since it's not specialized to be able to fuel fire. At best it would be able to pick up something that's on fire and keep it going until the fuel runs out.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: Game mechanics fun time
« Reply #8596 on: January 22, 2015, 11:44:23 am »

Yeah, but with normal fire, whatever is burning is the fuel.

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« Reply #8597 on: January 22, 2015, 11:46:29 am »

Since when was Fire ever considered plasma? Fire is a chemical reaction that turns a fuel source into Light, heat and various reaction products. It is oxidation of the fuel sorce, but it is by far not plasma. Besides, have you ever drove down a highway going 100 and got friction burns from the air? I certainly have. It's why I hate convertibles.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: Game mechanics fun time
« Reply #8598 on: January 22, 2015, 12:05:03 pm »

but what is the fuel to the fire, is the *large* amount of chemicals needed to rot away keratine. Just oxygen is not enough, take it from someone who studied chemistry for 5 years before quitting that shit to become a cook.

To use the oxygen in the air to rapidly rot stuff away, you'd need to either add more chemicals, or manipulate the oxygen on quantum levels. I mean, for *air* magic, to manipulate something on quantum level, you'd need elder god levels of mastery, and a gigantic mag stat.

There are plenty of ways to use air magic creatively, without stretching the very boundaries of its definition by sorting through old marvel stuff.
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« Reply #8599 on: January 22, 2015, 12:34:30 pm »

It's not like I intended to use it against organic enemies a lot anyways.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: Game mechanics fun time
« Reply #8600 on: January 22, 2015, 12:39:53 pm »

times it was used agaonst organic enemies: 100%




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But against many anorganic enemies too, rusting them wont just work like that.
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« Reply #8601 on: January 22, 2015, 01:35:49 pm »

Thing is, a lot of what is being forgot about "Air " Magic is what makes up air?

We have air being composed of Nitrogen, Oxygen, Argon, Carbon dioxide, Neon, Helium, Methane, Krypton, Hydrogen, and Xenon. Now taking into account that Kyle is a technical genius, IT isn't far fetched that Kyle could Manipulate the composition of the air he is controlling to rot or create the correct chemical composition in the air to make a gas capable of rotting.

Also, in terms of ROS, They doesn't need any enzymes to be produced since it's just a collection of Ionized Oxygen created as a byproduct from our body using Oxygen. THey can occur naturally in the air just by anything that interacts with Oxygen.

And on the subject of "air" magic needing a elder god mastery to even use quantum physics to change air into a chemical used for rotting? Kyle has the technical know how to do that. He's a wiz in Technology and science. He built a suit of power armor in his garage that runs of an seemingly infinite energy supply. He is our own little Tony stark for christ's sake XP
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: Game mechanics fun time
« Reply #8602 on: January 22, 2015, 03:15:41 pm »

Now, granted, it wouldn't be a single turn action, but a series of turns to do so because without proper equipment, Air isn't just going to magically become a rot inducing cloud.  Even using magic it would still take some turns to do.

And let's face it, all forms of magic can have lethal qualities. Water magic can use the water vapor in the air to drown a person, and Lightning magic could interrupt a targets nervous system.Earth magic could cause the blood, due to the iron inside of the blood, to solidify inside of the person causing them to be deprived of oxygen. Healing magic could cause a person to undergo rapid cell division, causing cancer and other health problems and Light magic could cause seizures and epileptic shock as well as blind and, if sufficient magic is used, cause the light to become a high powered laser and melt a person's mind.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: Game mechanics fun time
« Reply #8603 on: January 22, 2015, 06:20:50 pm »

No, he can't do that, because that requires elder god magic and an understanding of quantum physics without being able to see what you're doing

and kyle is a 23-year-old perverted chunni iron man, end of argument, it doesn't matter anyway.

Besides, if Kyle can get away with doing that, than Kaiser can literally OHK any organic or mechanical enemy simply by ripping every atom of metal out of their bodies and watching them turn into a pile of slag.
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« Reply #8604 on: January 22, 2015, 06:31:52 pm »

Besides, if Kyle can get away with doing that, than Kaiser can literally OHK any organic or mechanical enemy simply by ripping every atom of metal out of their bodies and watching them turn into a pile of slag.
You know, if that were one of his powers. Because it isn't.
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« Reply #8605 on: January 22, 2015, 06:33:34 pm »

I though Kaiser alread could OHK any Mechanical enemy?
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« Reply #8606 on: January 22, 2015, 06:43:05 pm »

Yeah, but since if he actually does do that it'll kill him, Kaiser's skills got a decent nerf. He could, but then he'd go batshit insane and try converting anything that isn't him into him. Fun.

You know, if that were one of his powers. Because it isn't.

Nanobots (which he's made up of) in your blood and bones. Goodbye, iron and hello instant death.
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« Reply #8607 on: January 22, 2015, 06:51:13 pm »

Yeah, but since if he actually does do that it'll kill him, Kaiser's skills got a decent nerf. He could, but then he'd go batshit insane and try converting anything that isn't him into him. Fun.

You know, if that were one of his powers. Because it isn't.

Nanobots (which he's made up of) in your blood and bones. Goodbye, iron and hello instant death.
That requires them to powered long enough to do it. I don't know why your being such a git about this.
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« Reply #8608 on: January 22, 2015, 06:59:55 pm »

Magic! It allows for crazy physics!

Also, just end... whatever this is already. Projeck already said the dragon isn't a terran biological construct.
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« Reply #8609 on: January 22, 2015, 07:05:58 pm »

I'm still wondering why were continuing this XD
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