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How often do you play Dwarf Fortress?

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Only when there's a new release.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: More characters for the character throne!
« Reply #7485 on: December 02, 2014, 09:38:25 am »

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« Reply #7486 on: December 02, 2014, 09:40:57 am »

Looking over her sheet I can't really see anything that op about her, maybe some of the stunning abilities but nothing too extreme
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« Reply #7487 on: December 02, 2014, 09:42:22 am »

Looking over her sheet I can't really see anything that op about her.
That's why we tested her. And when we tested her she literally couldn't be hit.
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« Reply #7488 on: December 02, 2014, 09:47:45 am »

Most of that just seems to be you getting bad rolls
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: More characters for the character throne!
« Reply #7489 on: December 02, 2014, 09:50:16 am »

Yeah, looking it over again I can definitely say that you just rolled terribly instead of any innate OPness on Walpurga's part. Plus that was before we revamped the magic system, so she was still dealing tons of damage with her attacks too.
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« Reply #7490 on: December 02, 2014, 09:58:47 am »

And you think that's actually made her more balanced?
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« Reply #7491 on: December 02, 2014, 10:04:20 am »

... Yes? She's dealing less damage with her magic so she's more in line with our physical fighters and there's nothing on her sheet to make her mechanically OP. So yes, she does seem to be a rather balanced character. Or at the very least, much more balanced than Seras.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: More characters for the character throne!
« Reply #7492 on: December 02, 2014, 10:05:26 am »

Plus, just because one character rolled badly, doesn't mean the other is OP :P
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« Reply #7493 on: December 02, 2014, 10:07:27 am »

Plus, just because one character rolled badly, doesn't mean the other is OP :P
But when just a roll is the only thing preventing a character from absolutely destroying an attacker with ease they are OP.
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« Reply #7494 on: December 02, 2014, 10:08:50 am »

No, that means it is balanced, if it's purely down to chance. If it wasn't, it would be unbalanced.

Alright, what exactly needs nerf-batting? I am... under the influence, so yeah.
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« Reply #7495 on: December 02, 2014, 10:11:57 am »

No, that means it is balanced, if it's purely down to chance. If it wasn't, it would be unbalanced.
No, beacause you shouldn't be able to consistently destroy everything. Because that's what makes things OP.
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« Reply #7496 on: December 02, 2014, 10:13:59 am »

No, if it is purely down to just bad rolls, it isn't consistent; it's the complete opposite.
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« Reply #7497 on: December 02, 2014, 10:15:34 am »

Oh yeah? Tell, what do you call it when you just have to roll a 9 to break someone's arms and legs. And that's at most.
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« Reply #7498 on: December 02, 2014, 10:16:14 am »

That is unfair. And Walpurga can't do that.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: More characters for the character throne!
« Reply #7499 on: December 02, 2014, 10:18:49 am »

Alright, what exactly needs nerf-batting? I am... under the influence, so yeah.

Seras's sheet, but we should probably wait for Sanure to come online before doing anything about that. Just so that they can defend/explain themselves...

No, beacause you shouldn't be able to consistently destroy everything. Because that's what makes things OP.

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Kj, your sample size is one fight between Kyle and Walpurga. That's definitely too small to declare that Walpurga is consistently OP. You'd need to run... a lot more tests to say that she's overpowered. Not only against Kyle but up against a bunch of different enemies.

Oh yeah? Tell, what do you call it when you just have to roll a 9 to break someone's arms and legs. And that's at most.

A 62~% chance to succeed? And also something that was fixed when we toned back magic damage?
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