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Total Members Voted: 13

[Empiricist]

I am not happy.

Elaborate.

Presumably by how an enemy who was already defeated and should have been bleeding out instead managed to hypnotize someone with protection against such things and escape with two other enemies, freeing one of them from a magical entrapment?

[Rolepgeek]

Elaborate.

Probably the whole 'they all escape automatically and you can do nothing about it'.

Kj probably wanted a new torture buddy.

[kj1225]

Indeed.

[PrivateNomad]

I am not happy.

Elaborate.

Presumably by how an enemy who was already defeated and should have been bleeding out instead managed to hypnotize someone with protection against such things and escape with two other enemies, freeing one of them from a magical entrapment?

Good point. I'll clear it up with Sanure. Totally forgot Kyle had the helmet.

[Sanure]

When I mentioned Hypnotic tug, I did not mean that it was mind control based. It's more like the feeling thata you get when your arm or leg falls asleep, you let blood flow back into it, and then someone holds your arm/leg and pulls on it. It feels wierd, but you can't just stop them from doing it.

The haze is what is doing it and not Osmodeus.

[Empiricist]

I am not happy.

Elaborate.

Presumably by how an enemy who was already defeated and should have been bleeding out instead managed to hypnotize someone with protection against such things and escape with two other enemies, freeing one of them from a magical entrapment?

Good point. I'll clear it up with Sanure. Totally forgot Kyle had the helmet.

Not just that, assuming that defeat indicated that the target's HP has been reduced below zero, they would be completely incapable of saying much, casting magic, using items or moving too quickly.

[Rolepgeek]

To me, the haze is the most questionable part of the whole deal. Spreads instaquick for a gas, no one thinks to hold their breath or the like, not just some sort of magical neurotoxin...it's a macgyver in a situation without any real need for one.

Also, when I set HP totals for bosses, they're more like 'this is how long until they retreat/FINAL FORM' rather than 'this is how much health they have period'.

Otherwise they end up with shittons of health and I have to deal with 'at this percent blahblahblah and then blah and so blah' and it's just annoying.

[Empiricist]

Indeed, there were no resistance rolls, and characters such as Alice who could dispel status effects did nothing to counteract it.

[Sanure]

Osmodeus is a king of hell, so him being defeated is more of a trap than actual defeat. He is the corrupter, would he really be defeated that easily?

As for the haze, It's a sensory deprication field that affects melee units different from Magic users. It doesn't need to be breathed in. THe gas is a quick spread chemical that easily and quickly spreads when introduced to air. A single vial of the substance can cover a roughly 30ft area, which is enough to cover the currect battlefield. Also, It doesn't take long for a gas to expand outwards once released from a container.

Also, to avoid any arguments that are bound to happen, Consider that maybe, just maybe, Osmodeus, Franzisca, and Elysia may be plot centric and needed to escape?

[kj1225]

Did you stop to consider that maybe, just maybe, you could have planned ahead and not made characters like that plot centric?

[PrivateNomad]

You do realize that Kyle can easily track them down now that they have their magic signatures, right?

[Empiricist]

Was there anything to imply that it was a trap and that he had something up his sleeve? Also, how was it that the hostile was able to pull out the vial and deploy the haze without any PC managing to shoot him? Such questions do demand answers.

You do realize that Kyle can easily track them down now that they have their magic signatures, right?

You do realize that there are means to conceal such signatures and that it is arguable he shouldn't have needed to in the first place?

[Sanure]

First of all, Not my plot.

Second, PN is right. Osmodeus does have a very unique magic signiture.

@EMP, It is very hard for a king of hell to hide his magical signiture when he has a aura that permeates in a 30ft radius and never shuts off.

[Empiricist]

Still, how did no PC react in time to intervene and was there anything to imply that he had such an escape measure prepared?

[PrivateNomad]

Was there anything to imply that it was a trap and that he had something up his sleeve? Also, how was it that the hostile was able to pull out the vial and deploy the haze without any PC managing to shoot him? Such questions do demand answers.

When a PC does a standard action to use something, are they suddenly interrupted by the bad guy shooting them on their turn?


Osmodeus's magic signature is all over the area. They might even be able to trace the teleport.