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« Reply #3045 on: July 19, 2014, 05:34:14 am »

Ah, my apologies for getting the wrong tone across then.

As for the bonus, if the sword wasn't caesite, what would the bonus have been?
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« Reply #3046 on: July 19, 2014, 05:36:37 am »

Probably +5 or +7.

I had that lined up for Kaiser's plot as soon as I drafted him, but nooo!  :P You had to go and ruin the fun, and now his timeline's all whacked.

Also, pure caesite is restricted for cutscenes only, due to it's 'slice through void like butter'iness.
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« Reply #3047 on: July 19, 2014, 05:37:58 am »

I'd have no problem with Araceli dealing +10, I mean she *is* on her own and all.
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« Reply #3048 on: July 19, 2014, 05:39:33 am »

Right, then a +5 for anti-affinity in it's own realm then? Assuming that field makes the area technically void and we use Raufoss Mk 21s as a basis for anti-material rounds, then it's a total of +10 to Araceli's damage.

What if it isn't in it's own realm like Ashley's mordite?
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« Reply #3049 on: July 19, 2014, 05:45:15 am »

Well, her mordite stuff is actually mordite-titanium alloy, so it is stabilized because reasons. No titanium, though, and I'd say it gets no bonus as the debuff.
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« Reply #3050 on: July 19, 2014, 05:46:55 am »

Well, her mordite stuff is actually mordite-titanium alloy, so it is stabilized because reasons. No titanium, though, and I'd say it gets no bonus as the debuff.
Right, so would her cost for summoning the pure stuff be reduced then seeing as she's meant to be able to summon it relatively easily and it isn't too useful seeing as just about all combat takes place outside of it's own realm?
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« Reply #3051 on: July 19, 2014, 05:51:13 am »

She doesn't really use that as a skill, so it doesn't really matter.
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« Reply #3052 on: July 19, 2014, 05:54:40 am »

Right, so is this change just going to go ahead or will it come down to a vote?

Also, how dense is caesite and what happens if you stab a void entity with it in creation?
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« Reply #3053 on: July 19, 2014, 06:04:20 am »

It'll come down to a vote.

Also, pure caesite is very, very dense. Granted, not black-dwarf level, but still enough to cause tiny distortions in space time, and requires either a lot of strength or a lot of magic to maintain. Stabbing a void entity with the pure stuff cuts right through them.

However, Kaiser only has access to very impure stuff, and he'll only get the pure stuff during a cutscene or two.
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« Reply #3054 on: July 19, 2014, 06:09:38 am »

How precisely does it cut? Does it cause the void that it touches to dissipate essentially destroying its way through in an approximation of cutting? Or is it actually supernaturally sharp in that circumstance? Or is it just due to be rammed by an incredibly dense blade with a noticeable gravitational field?

Is it conductive? What is its atomic structure? Are there isotopes or nuclear isomers of it? Can it be ionized or oxidize? How inert or reactive is it? What sort of crystal lattice does it have? Is it a compound fermion or is it a compound boson, or is it something else entirely? Does it have a melting and boiling point?
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« Reply #3055 on: July 19, 2014, 06:31:38 am »

How precisely does it cut? Does it cause the void that it touches to dissipate essentially destroying its way through in an approximation of cutting? Or is it actually supernaturally sharp in that circumstance? Or is it just due to be rammed by an incredibly dense blade with a noticeable gravitational field?

Is it conductive? What is its atomic structure? Are there isotopes or nuclear isomers of it? Can it be ionized or oxidize? How inert or reactive is it? What sort of crystal lattice does it have? Is it a compound fermion or is it a compound boson, or is it something else entirely? Does it have a melting and boiling point?

Absolutely; Yes; Yes, by definition; that helps; probably not, due to particles being already fairly dense; consists of a type of dense strange matter; inapplicable; inapplicable; highly reactive with void particles, otherwise equally as inert as lead-208; inapplicable; strange matter, no.
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« Reply #3056 on: July 19, 2014, 06:52:04 am »

Wouldn't it be far denser than a black dwarf then?

Since density-wise black/white dwarf < neutron star < strange matter

I have a feeling that pure caesite is going to be very dangerous to void entities just by sheer virtue of density...
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« Reply #3057 on: July 19, 2014, 06:57:00 am »

...Well, you want to stay a good distance away from it then.

Also, don't forget the strange quark version of beta radiation burning the void entities skin off!
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« Reply #3058 on: July 19, 2014, 07:00:28 am »

Yeah... I'm beginning to see what you meant by it taking a toll on Kaiser to maintain it...

Edit: Wait, does strange matter hypothesis hold true? If so, there's even more stuff for people near caesite to worry about...
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« Reply #3059 on: July 19, 2014, 07:10:00 am »

Oh yeah. If he's got a lump of pure caesite, anything he wants gone will be gone, which is why it gets to stay in cutscenes.
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