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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: So many grenades, so little shipping
« Reply #9000 on: February 05, 2015, 07:16:46 pm »

Or, this may sound crazy but hear it out, we don't roll for them and use them straight like it's meant to be.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: So many grenades, so little shipping
« Reply #9001 on: February 05, 2015, 07:18:03 pm »

Uh... What? What do you mean by use them straight? And as far as I've known, we've always intended to roll for them in the first place.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: So many grenades, so little shipping
« Reply #9002 on: February 05, 2015, 07:19:46 pm »

Or, this may sound crazy but hear it out, we don't roll for them and use them straight like it's meant to be.

Uh, that would make a Def 20 Res 20 thing near immortal at our levels

good luck with that one

Wait, So if a character has DEF 30 and RES 30 that would be

+6DR for physical
+6DR for Magical

Correct?

Yeah, like that.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: So many grenades, so little shipping
« Reply #9003 on: February 05, 2015, 08:25:20 pm »

Here's where I'm a bit confused about damage resistance as a statistic, what role does it really serve compared to HP? I mean, it's always seemed like something that was difficult to balance since it has to be better than HP (to balance the fact that it only covers one out of two damage types and may be bypassed) but also not overpowered to the point where someone could just sink points into both defenses and be better off than if had sunk those points into HP.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: So many grenades, so little shipping
« Reply #9004 on: February 06, 2015, 12:39:20 am »

Damage Resistance's main role is to serve to differentiate hard targets from soft targets.

Hard targets require single strike penetrating attacks to damage, but typically have low HP compared to their counterparts past that point; Hard, but brittle.

Soft targets have large amounts of HP, but are less affected by heavy-hitter single-target or penetration attacks. Thick, but soft.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: So many grenades, so little shipping
« Reply #9005 on: February 06, 2015, 12:44:55 am »

Of course, you can have both, but enjoy doing shit all damage.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: So many grenades, so little shipping
« Reply #9006 on: February 06, 2015, 05:29:57 am »

Defence already IS better than Health. As PN said, Health blocks 3 damage - once. Defence meanwhile blocks damage again and again - summed up over the whole course of the battle. For a longer engagement, defence is superior
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: So many grenades, so little shipping
« Reply #9007 on: February 06, 2015, 05:46:15 am »

True, but now we actually have someone to heal people. People can also get easily nuked down when they have low defenses. But even then, defense is still pretty shit.

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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: So many grenades, so little shipping
« Reply #9008 on: February 06, 2015, 09:54:22 am »

Defence already IS better than Health. As PN said, Health blocks 3 damage - once. Defence meanwhile blocks damage again and again - summed up over the whole course of the battle. For a longer engagement, defence is superior

I did the math on this a while back, if you remember, and the fact of the matter is that as it stands currently, you are wrong. Defense has a chance to block a point of damage. Combine that with the fact that most battles last 3 to 5 turns?

Def and Res, right now, suck.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: So many grenades, so little shipping
« Reply #9009 on: February 06, 2015, 09:55:56 am »

Of course, if battles didn't last that long it would be annoying as fuck with how impatient certain people are.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: So many grenades, so little shipping
« Reply #9010 on: February 06, 2015, 01:27:41 pm »

well, also too few people actually wear armor. Magic damage gets boosted, and everyone who fights in melee has weapons to greatly increase damage output. Nobody cares much about armor, only Kyle has really significant armor, and Icarus armor by now is also pretty significant. Too few people have gotten upgrades to their equipment since the game started
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: So many grenades, so little shipping
« Reply #9011 on: February 06, 2015, 05:16:46 pm »

Need to start whining at Isaac and Winry since that shits their specialty.

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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: So many grenades, so little shipping
« Reply #9012 on: February 06, 2015, 05:18:18 pm »

Kaiser too, since he did try to make some armour for Dalia at one point. Admittedly she never wore it afterwards, but minor details.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: So many grenades, so little shipping
« Reply #9013 on: February 06, 2015, 07:43:19 pm »

Player-created equipment is usually just a bunch of +3 items at this point in the game. If you want to make good ones, level up your magic and skill (or just skill if you have equipment).

Wait, So if a character has DEF 30 and RES 30 that would be

+6DR for physical
+6DR for Magical

Correct?

Unless someone has a beef, I'll be making this a thing. Any complaints?



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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: So many grenades, so little shipping
« Reply #9014 on: February 06, 2015, 07:44:39 pm »

I hath no quarrel with it.

Also, anybody watch Dexter's lab? He'd make fucking +10 items
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