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[USEC_OFFICER]

Also, can someone summarize the Hell lore being made? If I ever do end up playing Leth, I would like to know. (I'll probably just have Kaotaro and Spensir, at most, for active chars, actually...)

Spoiler: General Gist of Things (click to show/hide)

Hell is a big place, and can be altered by its inhabitants into pretty much anything and everything. So instead of the traditional fire and brimstone representation of Hell you have a patchwork of different realms and self-contained areas all side-by-side. As such transportation between territories in Hell is largely done with portals and teleportation, since these places rarely connect to each other making normal travel possible. And of course the inhabitants of Hell are just as varied, since a massive number of them exist and they can shape their own forms as well. We only imagine demons to be red skinned humans through popular culture, but most of them aren't even humanoid.

Hell society is feudalistic in nature with Satan on top through a combination of cunning, power and seniority. Underneath him you have a massive and confusing society of demons that has built itself up after billions of years. The basic idea of hellish society is that you have powerful demons on top with a bunch of weaker vassals, who have their own followers and so on and so on. But the structure is in a constant state of flux due to all of those demons vying for power, so the basic power structure has become increased convoluted. In fact a class/race of demons exists that are responsible only for writing down and memorizing all of the laws, responsibilities and exceptions that have been set out so that they can advise their masters on proper etiquette. In other words demonic society basically a giant clusterfuck.

Since Hell can be easily changed by the demons that rule it, material wealth is pointless to them as a measure of prestige. Someone else could easily summon up a bigger pile of gold. So instead demons concern themselves with collecting souls, since souls are one of the few things that demons can't make on demand. Of course having a lot of average souls is just as prestigious as having a few souls of famous or important beings. Plus how much effort you put into looking after your souls is important too, and many demons construct fantastical lands or horrible torture chambers to hold their souls and keep them entertained or contained. As such spending an afterland in Hell can be enjoyable or terrible depending on the whims of the demons who captured your soul, though chances are you'll be traded/gifted to another demon before long.

Spoiler: TL;DR Verison (click to show/hide)

Hell is a chaotic and varied place, whose inhabitants are held together by a strong and structured society constantly in flux. Demons collect souls because they think that they're valuable despite the fact that they don't have a good use for them. They also are generally too occupied with their own business to care about Earth and other planets, except for special and individual reasons.

Oh, As for hell lore: May need to wait until it's done. Otherwise shenanigans may happen :/

What else do we need to talk about exactly?

[Rolepgeek]

Why not make souls a sort of food?

Or a food source, in that their torment provides sustenance for demons? More powerful demons need more food. Slightly less tacked on reason for souls(everything's gotta eat).

[USEC_OFFICER]

Eh... I'm pretty sure that we've established that souls are rather hard to actually do anything to, and demons feeding off of souls would open a plot hole about how Sen has been living for the entire game. I think.

Also the soul collection thing should feel slightly silly, I think. It's basically a gaint dickwaving competition for demons after all, so it only makes sense if you're part of it. But if you aren't, then you should be wondering why they're spending so much power and wealth getting things that aren't even useful to them. _{Insert your own comparisons to Magic the Gathering and other card collecting games here.}

[Sanure]

Eh... I'm pretty sure that we've established that souls are rather hard to actually do anything to, and demons feeding off of souls would open a plot hole about how Sen has been living for the entire game. I think.

Actually.... >.>

She did technically slay around a thousand people after her release from her seal in Hyoma, so she does technically own a thousand souls of Diviners, Magicians, and other humans...

[Rolepgeek]

Okay, but if they don't actually serve any purpose, then it doesn't actually affect hierarchy; a more powerful demon with fewer souls can just punt you and take your souls, if he even gives a shit. There will be those few rare demons that don't give two shits about prestige, after all.

[Sanure]

Like Sen?

Anyways, they act as a status symbol and as a currency in Hell. The more souls you have the better off you are, and the more unique and amazing the soul the more respect you have and the more influence you have as a demon. There are a few cases where a demon still has all of the respect as a person with unique souls and holds lots of influence in the demon courts without having many souls in their possession, such demons are like Osmodeus, Sen, Ygglithtil, Andras, Andromalius, and Dantalion.

[USEC_OFFICER]

Okay, but if they don't actually serve any purpose, then it doesn't actually affect hierarchy; a more powerful demon with fewer souls can just punt you and take your souls, if he even gives a shit. There will be those few rare demons that don't give two shits about prestige, after all.

Just like how someone could easily go into your house and steal your computer. Or brutally murder you when you're sleeping for shits and giggles. Yes, some demons don't go along with society, but the majority of them definitely do. So they have systems set up to stop the demons who don't from doing the above, similar to how we have policemen and laws. These system also prevents powerful demons from just stealing all of the souls. It's not every demon for themselves, they're organized in a feudal hierarchy. So stealing from a weaker demon is likely to get his underlings involved, as well as their master(s). So it's not as simple as beating up someone and taking their lunch money.

Yes, having lots of souls does not directly increase the power of the demon that owns them. But think about all of the shit that humans do that don't serve any purpose but still do to gain prestige. All of the things we donate to charity, the parties we host, the gifts we give, they don't make sense when you consider the wealth and power lost doing them. But they make sense when you consider the societal pressures and expectations behind them. And it's the same with demons. Soul don't do anything for them, but they assign value to them which is why they collect them because that's what their society expects them to do.

[Rolepgeek]

Demons.

Have police.

The fuck.

[USEC_OFFICER]

Well, to be fair they aren't traditional 'fire and brimstone' demons. They're more like... I want to say the Fey because they share many similarities _{like alternating between being helpful and being assholes} but that word has baggage of its own to deal with. However it's probably closer to my idea of this entire thing than the word demon is.

Anyways, even if they were traditional 'fire and brimstone' demons they'd still need police or something like them. Have to enforce your will/laws/whatever somehow...

[smurfingtonthethird]

I was thinking the leaders made up the rules, and anyone stupid enough to break them gets eaten by who knows what.

[Rolepgeek]

If you want Fey, just have Fey. I may have claimed their lore but I can work on it with you guys id you want an eldritch feudal caste system with beings of immense power who do things just for the shits and giggles half the time.

[Sanure]

Demons have a court of law similar to a mix between feudal and modern. You commit a crime, you get imprisoned, you go to trial, you get found innocent and let go, or you get found guilty and get a punishment set by the current ruler of the kingdom you broke the law in.

So yeah, What smurf said.

[PrivateNomad]

Spoiler: Hellfire ICU (click to show/hide)

Stats         (75)
   Health: 10 [30]
   Mana: 0 [0]
   Speed: 5
   Skill: 15
   Strength: 35
   Magic: 0
   Defense: 5
   Resistance: 5

Abilities/Weapons

Twin linked Pertidrition Flamethrowers - Whatever the hell kind of technology these use, it still packs a fairly powerful punch - or flame, rather. +3 damage.

[PrivateNomad]

Reformatted by characters' magic pages with neat spell icons and all that. If you guys want any spell icons, just ask c:

[Rolepgeek]

I'd like some.

Also, anyone willing to help me get Spensir back in the plot/group somehow?

Plox?