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Author Topic: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: Stealing combat systems from an eroge  (Read 525078 times)

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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: More characters for the character throne!
« Reply #7515 on: December 02, 2014, 02:56:55 pm »

btw


negative- Seras moves first in combat, unless someone has higher speed, in which case she moves after the,




what?


negative- basic rules apply to Seras


everyone moves first, unless someone else has higher speed, this is how speed works. I really, really do not understand the point of even mentioning this, let alone calling it a negative.


so far we have:


true vampire: wide range of abilities AND extra Hp AND extra mana, that is 3 perks
inhuman power: 20% bonus damage, that is bordering a level 5 perk
inhuman strentgh: another 20% bonus if it is a grapple, again that is a big perk
advanced marksmanship: that is somehow not even a perk, more of a weapon thing. But since it applies tp all weapons, that is a perk
vampiric reflexes: that is a *huge* perk. that is basicaly Icarus overdrive being permanently turned on on speed (and strenght)
immortality: this is beyond a level 5 perk, as Icarus perk literaly just saves her once in a clutch moment. Seras perk is permanent unless very specific conditions are met. Level 1 perk, more liek level 15 perk.
supernatural existance: flat 1/3rd damage reduction to physical damage. That too is in question for a level 5 perk.


in addition we have the silver ammo doing 50 base damage (while our weapons do +5 base damage. even with a reload of 4 turns, that is is 250% increase of base damage)


to balance that out we have


weakness to silver ; even less than Sen got
Cant increase mana ot health: mana or health on seras are both higher than on most characters anyway because  of above perks Also negated entirely by her ability being that every defeated enemy adds a bonus in those stats


so we have 8 perks, some of which are drasticaly above any other perks, balanced out by 1.5 flaws. 1.2 flaws, considering nobody ever uses silver


this needs revision. Sure, call me all hateful and arguement happy and the unbreakable perk unbalanced, but none of that changes the fact that this needs revision. Even if Seras was a villain made for a bossfight this might need revision.

there is a limit to just how many bonuses you can throw at a character and can still with a straight face pretend it is balanced compared to other characters
« Last Edit: December 02, 2014, 03:20:21 pm by Akroma »
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: More characters for the character throne!
« Reply #7516 on: December 02, 2014, 03:10:47 pm »

*Projeck high fives Akroma.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: More characters for the character throne!
« Reply #7517 on: December 02, 2014, 03:20:26 pm »

Akroma got the health and mana up thing wrong though. It's once a level.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: More characters for the character throne!
« Reply #7518 on: December 02, 2014, 03:23:42 pm »

considering that once per level, she will at least be biting one enemy, it still turn the flaw "can not put points into health and mana" to "gains 8 stats per level, 4 of which go into health and mana", making this anothery (very) powerful perk, and 1 flaw less.


so 9 perks, at least 4 of them level 5 or greater, vs 0,8 flaws

thats about 10 times as many perks as flaws. Balance, ladies and gentlemen. This would be fine if seras was level 50, literaly playing through 10 threads before entering this one.
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« Reply #7519 on: December 02, 2014, 03:25:47 pm »

Six points.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: More characters for the character throne!
« Reply #7520 on: December 02, 2014, 03:27:44 pm »

Still doesn't change the fact that she's getting practically 1.5 levels for everyone else's 1.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: More characters for the character throne!
« Reply #7521 on: December 02, 2014, 03:31:32 pm »

Level up need some better value anyways.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: More characters for the character throne!
« Reply #7522 on: December 02, 2014, 03:35:12 pm »

so seras being bullshit is justified because levels dont give enough stats?


hmm...no, Seras is still bullshit. All future villains should get the "does 10.000 times the damage to vampires"


except that stll would not work because seras is immortal


...and it would be 6.666 times the damage. If she is not intangible
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« Reply #7523 on: December 02, 2014, 03:44:51 pm »

It's not relevant since it's already being changed and you need to cool off your little rage butt.
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: More characters for the character throne!
« Reply #7524 on: December 02, 2014, 03:47:12 pm »

what is being changed is the 20 bonus stat points that somehow snuck onto the sheet, until they were pointed out. pointing out the 9 bonus perks that snuck unto the sheet is still relevant.
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« Reply #7525 on: December 02, 2014, 03:58:57 pm »

Both. Sanure isn't stupid.
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« Reply #7526 on: December 02, 2014, 09:24:38 pm »

Sanure, you're trying to copy a character off of an anime EXACTLY
That's a bad idea, because if you're trying to copy everything, it turns out op as fuck. That and it's unoriginal, but I don't really care about that.

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« Reply #7527 on: December 02, 2014, 10:25:04 pm »

PN... You're needed for Katawas and shoujouds!
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Re: Rise of the Magic Girls v3 OOC: More characters for the character throne!
« Reply #7528 on: December 03, 2014, 01:14:52 am »

I just realized that Kyle has only really tried dating super natural women throughout the course of the game. Is there a word for that?
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« Reply #7529 on: December 03, 2014, 01:15:58 am »

"Exotic" Tastes :P
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