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Only when there's a new release.

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[IamanElfCollaborator]

Still deciding on my mech and pilot myself.

[smurfingtonthethird]

Heh. The players won't have much tech at the start of the game, I'm leaving plenty down to research and salvaging. There is a lot of tech, over a few hundred items.

[Akroma]

I think just building a giant Icarus might be a bit lame

[USEC_OFFICER]

So... Can I get an estimation as to when the game is going to start? Because I really, really can't wait for it to begin. I am a big mech fan...

[smurfingtonthethird]

ASAP, but it's a big project, and it's fairly disjointed. Plenty of typing to be done ><

[USEC_OFFICER]

Alright. Just wondering. _{I'll try to contain my hype until then. As best as I can. I have mentioned that I'm really excited about this game, right? Because I am. Just so everyone knows.}

...

Okay, now I'm shutting up.

[smurfingtonthethird]

Heh.

Mechanics are mostly done. It should be done some time tomorrow, but for now, sleep.

[Sanure]

First thing's first Akroma, I still haven't agreed to the Lore change of making Sen be Amazeroths Daughter. Yes, I am going along with the plot because, frankly, I want to see where it goes. Honestly, when you decide, without telling the character's player, that instead of them being a demon that they are a half void abomination it kinda makes it look like you have a grudge against a character.

Second, Sen is the only character that I have right now that I enjoy playing. I don't play Iraya since I haven't got him any interactions yet, Bakteiral almost had a little interaction, but then an argument happened and I haven't tried to play her again, and Frederika is a tad bit hard to play since no one is in Costa Rica and Twi hasn't go back on here in a while to play his detective character.

If during PN's plot Sen gets killed, I would be fine with it since I can actually trust PN to give her a good death. I'm sorry Akroma and, no offence to Smurf, but you are never going to be allowed to kill Sen off for one of you plots. The only time you will ever be allowed is if it is discussed with me and smurf first and we agree to it. And yes, I do mean with Both me and Smurf, and I do mean at the same time.

Tl:Dr
Basically what I am saying is this: If anyone want's to kill one of my characters off, then ask me if you can, don't just assume you can and go ahead with it without any prior warning. As I said, Pn is fully allowed this, since I trust him.


Also, in regards to Combat feeling less problematic if you can't die, look around. How many characters have died in combat other than Lizzie? I would rest my case here, but I feel the need to continue with something important.

What the hell kind of problem do you have with Sen, Akroma? Yes she is versatile. Yes she can get stronger by absorbing more magical books. I understand that you think she is OP. One of the things you have to understand is that even if the character seems OP, you have to trust the player to not let her be OP. Yes one of Sen's attacks can deal a shit ton of damage. No I am not going to use all of her paper stock to deal upwards of 800 damage. Yes, Her Black Mass has a very useful Big spell in it, no I am probably never going to use it and yes it is going to get nerfed a bit. Yes she has other more useful Magical books at her disposal. Are they even written yet? No. And they probably won't for a while more.

Basically what I am asking, is to lay off my character, and me for that matter. You need to trust me that Sen will be controlled as a character and won't act OP. I am trying to have fun, not trying to be a god-modded character. I want to role-play a demon who can consume magical books and be a stoic if sometimes comedic character. Not that much to ask, is it?

And before anyone assumes otherwise, Yes I am in a pissy mood. The only reason I still play this game is because of my attachment to Sen. She is a fun character to play and I enjoy it. Every damn time Sen is brought up, it's either about how OP she is, or how she needs to be nerfed. Never is she brought up about how can we make her more fun, or how we can have this hilarious or awkward moment between two characters. She shouldn't have to be nerfed as long as people trust me to keep her from being OP. IF you have a problem with one of her attacks, Ask me about it, Don't just start going "Oh No! That attack will ruin my perfectly planned boss." or "But that's not fair, How can anyone stop something that can't be resisted." Ask me before hand through PM or OOC. That's all I ask. Don't just run up and yell "Way to god mod" That shit pisses me off.

Also, Sen's daughter does not Share Sen's Blood, nor does the Demon she created. Once a demon is created, they take on new traits, new DNA, new everything different from the creator Demon. Demon Mitosis remember?


Rants done. I probably won't be posting on here today. If you want to say anything to me, do it through PM or I will probably just ignore it.
Also, I will go ahead and apologize now if I upset anyone or made anyone mad. It's just tiring to have a single character pointed out for attacks that could have been a lot more helpful as a question about how to make it more fun and less powerful.

Notes:
1. No I was not referring to the Teleportation debate. That wasn't even an argument I got pissed at.
2. The "Do demon's resurrect" thing did piss me off. I really don't like the way GWG made the Demon lore. A demon's race is not it's job. A demon's race is Demon. Simple as that. They do have classifications and types and ranks and jobs. I will probably never understand why he made that lore bit up...
3. Eh, Felt like a third number would make things better. There isn't a real 3rd note.

[Sanure]

Also, I am currently going though Sen's Abilities and making changes to a few of them. Smurf, I will need you to look over it here in a half hour to make sure the changes are acceptable.

[USEC_OFFICER]

You know, if everyone seems to dislike the demon lore so much... What's stopping us from changing it? I mean, it hasn't been referenced too much, so suddenly changing how Hell works shouldn't affect too many things. I hope. Keep in the cool bits that everyone likes/agrees on, like the feudalism/soul collecting thing, and work to change what we hate/don't know about into something cooler/better.

[Sanure]

See, now that i can get behind. I am making a Straw poll for Changing how Hell works.

((feudal System works great so lets not change that.))

http://strawpoll.me/2649172

[Akroma]

without prior warning? it's not like my enemies are like Hilda and one-shot stuff easily. But hanging around in combat where your health is below the highest number of damage you have seen an enemy deal falls under the category of being warned and ignoring it. If a heavily wounded character stays in combat despite the enemy having demonstrated to be well able to deal enough damage to kill that character off, that character is going to get the blade. I *am* however taking precautions to stop that from happening all too suddenly, by fudging rolls here and there to ease a character into a warning zone. Follow the amazeroth fight, and you will see that Hildas health was ticking down very slowly, same for Stella, until they were very very obviously in a danger zone, that not even the most arrogant characters would be able to think is still safe. And hey, Hilda did actually retreat, and I let her retreat. Then she decided to turn around and do sniping from miles away, thinking she would be safe - and got her head torn out for that. At that point, she was asking for it. And even then, I tinkered with the damage roll to make sure she would fal into the *can still be safed* bracket of low numbers below zero (she had everything in attack, no speed or def and was <5 health. I dont recall the exact roll, but if I had not tinkered with the roll, Hilda would have simply been dead - no chances for saving her)

As you can see I am not the kind to kill of characters easily. When people try to retreat, I usualy let them (unless massive plot reasons), and the massive enemy nukes are usualy used on characters that are either at full health and tanky enough to not be one-shot, or on characters that are already so low, that it makes no difference if it was a huge nuke or a normal punch that finishes the character.

and indeed, I even sent out warning PMs.

so don't go ahead and think that I am handling the life of *main* characters lightly. I wouldn't want Icarus to just be roflstomped either. But if Sen is fighting against enemies that want to kill her, and is wounded enough that she might actually go down, I in turn expect you not to take my enemies lightly. They won't just suddenly start ignoring her because she is not allowed to die. I expect at the very least enough forethought from Sen, or any character that any player does not want to die yet, to act exactly that way - cautiously. Because when Sen stands on the battlefield with <10 health and still continues casting anything other than healing spells on herself, defence buffs or teleportation spells to get the fuck out, or any visible effort to prolong her life, because "I didn't give you permission to kill her", that's just rude. And if that kind of case comes, fine, then I will just capture and imprison her. Alternatively, there is also the chance of permanent dismemberment, including a stat penalty.

[Sanure]

I wasn't talking about her having a 'Chance' of being killed. I was talking about the lack of warning of 'my plot demands that Sen's Lore be completely and utterly discarded in favor of my better Sen is a part amazeroth entire being'. That was Rude.

And before you even complain about Being fair to everyone by sending out 'Warning PMs' then Why didn't I get anything regarding you asking about Sen's Lore? You completely trampled over it when you decided to make her into the offspring of one of your plot bosses. All I ever got from you regarding anything was that Sen is important to your plot and that it would 'help' her backstory. That was it. That was all I got.

And no. Sen having defensive buffs, or even being able to teleport during combat? COMPLETELY USELESS when she is normally low on the Initiative list. Doesn't take but one turn of her getting offed since she cant just response teleport. In a turn based game, You only act during your turn.

And as to your last part of your statement, Saying that you will capture her, or make her get dismembered is also holding a grudge. So once more I will say lay off and instead just ask me what I can do to help your plot instead of acting like a fucking god and doing whatever you want. It isn't fair to the players to act like that, and it certainly isn't fair to yourself when you act like that. You don't get to make any kind of decision regarding a player's character without any kind of input from the player. Every time I have ever had a plot where a character was about to take a lot of damage, I asked the player if they wanted anything to happen because of it.

[PrivateNomad]

Nobody's going to have any epic deaths in my current plot. It's just not cosmic enough, but will be once you guys open the Gate.

[Sanure]

When you do open the gate, I am going to try to get Iraya and Bakteiral involved in it somehow. I want to try Rping them.