I slept on it and I realised that Wolf fake-claiming Seer would be really dumb as it's highly susceptible to being counterclaimed. Also, I think we have good reason to believe Flabort's information is legitimate. Also, Persus/Hapah/Ottofar haven't been super forthcoming yet. That said, in case there is a counterclaim, we still need to hear from everone. Namely Persus and Ottofar.
Meph, is Otto going to be replaced?
HapahI don't think there's any way the game ends today/tonight. That'd require the setup to be something like 7 (or 8-1, converted) town/4 (or 3+1, convert) scum/2 SK's, right? That doesn't seem balanced to me.
My specific worry was a scum team of three including Toony with a scum-converting resurrection and a one-shot convert. This is the same set-up as the previous Supernatural and would mean 5 scum. But now that I've slept I realise that can't be the case because they'd already outnumber us, so either there wasn't a one-shot conversion or Toony isn't scum.
Anyone: So Sages essentially return town/not-town? A Town Vig would return benign but a Scum Vig would return non-benign? Am I interpreting that correctly? Can scum inspect as benign?
That looks right. Re-read the action PMs of the previous gmes if you ever have these kinds of questions.
So if 4mask is on the up-and-up, then NQT/Toony (+ZU by extension of revive) are town, and Toaster is probably town unless you put stock in a convert (and even if you do, there are better targets). That'd leave flabort/Persus/me/Ottofar as possible scummies, with an outside chance of Toaster.
Are you going to claim today
Hapah? As you correctly summise, your head is on the block.
ToonyI'll concede that our scum team could have a one-shot convert at most, if they used it signs all point to it being N1. This would mean that Toaster is the only possible candidate, not you or me. Your suspicion of me has been wasted since the game started.
Also, I am not suspecting a 4mask-NQT-Toaster scum team at all, wouldn't that be a similar situation?
OK, in the light of day I realise where you were going with the Toaster thing. I realise I was miscounting the number of people left alive. If you were scum, then neccessarily ZU would be as well, and if there was a conversion AND you were a scum priest then scum would have already won. And I think I trust Hapah even less, so I think Wolf is legit, and so by extension, you, ZU and Toaster and myself would all be poor lynch candidates for today.
Yeah, I have to admit that's pretty surprising. I think NQT is being too paranoid.
13 consecutive losses in a game will do that. At the end of the last Supernatural game I never wanted to play this game again.
WolfNQT: you know the reason why I inspected you? Because I was sure you were scum. You were arguing to keep a necromancer alive with a scumteam of unknown size and abilities in play. I was going to announce two confirmed town and one confirmed scum this morning.
And then you came back town.
I can understand why you'd inspect me, though hopefully you can also understand why I was arguing for MOWE to live. Hapah's nonplussed reaction to your claim is beginning to seal it for me.
ZUIn the more reasonable light of morning, I've decide it probably isn't LYLO: Meph will have balanced this game with two SK kills in mind, so the scum team probably started smaller if it had a one-shot convert, or it couldn't convert at all. If we mislynch today then I'll definitely claim tomorrow, but I'll be very disappointed if we mislynch today.