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MAP : Cradle of dominion ?

Yes !
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OK with custom ports
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it would need 1 wrapping
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it would need 2 wrappings
- 0 (0%)
No, and it would look too wierd with wrapping.
- 1 (12.5%)

Total Members Voted: 8

Voting closed: June 02, 2014, 04:59:26 pm


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tompliss

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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.06: War in every continent ! :D
« Reply #615 on: July 25, 2014, 04:45:44 am »

I'd like to thank tompliss for staying around to the bitter end. I would have probably set myself to AI long before now, were I in your shoes.
Well, that's because you don't know what I have left.
You'll understand, when your whole empire freezes.

By the way, other nations : Kailasa has an empire. A real one. A big one. The one that will destroy you if you don't destroy it in the next years.
I can say one thing : I will be able to kill anyone, anywhere. Except I won't, if you make sure Kailasa get crushed.

Kailasa : I'll see you in hell. and I'll make sure it has frozen when you're there :)
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AlStar

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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.06: War in every continent ! :D
« Reply #616 on: July 25, 2014, 05:55:03 am »

Capitulate, Fomoria! It is the end for the south if you continue resisting! Just let it ha--- Arcoscephale is growing. Rapidly. Also Kailasa! If you don't give me army bases in the south, then Kailasa will win!

:P

Yes, and I had two armies heading for Arcoscephale territory before you obliterated one of them. Feel free to - you know - attack him, and not me.

Antur

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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.06: War in every continent ! :D
« Reply #617 on: July 25, 2014, 08:14:47 am »

I made a grave mistake few turns ago but i hope i'll be able to get something out of it. Anyone wants blood slaves for earth/nature gems ?

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tompliss

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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.06: War in every continent ! :D
« Reply #618 on: July 25, 2014, 08:25:16 am »

Hum, that was unexpected.
I thought I would still be playing, as long as I had dominion. Well, that's for not getting to my emergency province not quick enough :/
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Il Palazzo

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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.06: War in every continent ! :D
« Reply #619 on: July 25, 2014, 09:01:19 am »

Well, what was you big plan then? If it's not a secret, that is.
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tompliss

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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.06: War in every continent ! :D
« Reply #620 on: July 25, 2014, 09:09:31 am »

Well, I was relocating in a province all the way accross teh wolrd. Note that I already had my prophet (with ~32 AP due to quickness as heroic bonus), soem scouts and wolf-form skrattis going there. Had a lot of items crafted (battle stuff, as well as water- and stealth- and assassination- enabling items) to be able to raid some provinces from you (and others), and assassinate some nice commanders.
I had a few magic-paths and gems left, as well as constr-6 to forge what was missing to gather what I needed for my mission : raid anyone who didn't attack you.


clearly disappointed that having my prophet alive and a godo dozen provinces with 5+ candles left wasn't enough to stay in the game, though.


@Ragnoff : good thing you told me, I didn't see that ^^"
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Ragnoff

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« Reply #621 on: July 25, 2014, 10:20:26 am »

Please, remember to send in your final turn,silly, but llamaserver needs it for some reason.
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« Reply #622 on: July 25, 2014, 11:51:42 am »

You are welcome to try.
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Shadowlord

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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.06: War in every continent ! :D
« Reply #623 on: July 25, 2014, 04:12:44 pm »

I'm curious...what's going on in the east?

If you mean the northeast, Ulm launched an invasion of my lands a couple turns ago, and owing to the fact that he had far more territory, far more income, far more research, and far more troops, he's been blitzing through all my un-forted provinces. I ordered my military to fall back from two forts because I lacked the troops to defend everything. I ordered spies to blow up the forts and labs in both locations, but they only blew up the labs, and once the enemy armies arrived, the command to blow up the forts disappeared for some inexplicable reason... It's not like I didn't still control the forts. ??? (One of them has fallen now)

I also had a mage cast Twiceborn before the fort he was in got stormed. The wight mage he respawned as was lacking a head... Well, he can still reinforce the walls!
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Ragnoff

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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.06: War in every continent ! :D
« Reply #624 on: July 25, 2014, 04:48:57 pm »

I also think the advantage was I knew when and how I wanted to launch the invasion, although you have managed several thing that have and will hurt.  While I am sure I forshadowed it a bit, many of the things I was able to roll out you had not seen me do before and would have been hard to counter in advance. 

I dont know why the forts did not go, I would have thought that would work and would have been a major coup to keep me from taking. Does anyone know how that works?
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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.06: War in every continent ! :D
« Reply #625 on: July 25, 2014, 05:23:12 pm »

I guess fort destruction takes place late in the turn resolution sequence, specifically some time after all movement. Anyone wishing to confirm this could open their manual and look for the turn resolution bit. It's pretty detailed.
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« Reply #626 on: July 25, 2014, 08:13:31 pm »

Yes, building construction or demolishing happens later in the turn and then normal movement and battles.  The manual does not specify what the requirements are for being allowed to build or demolish items, and particularly does not directly address the idea of sieges. However, the fact that you cannot build a lab in a besieged fort suggests that the province is not considered owned by the person with the fort, but rather by the besieger (this is verified in that a besieged province can count as a line of continuous provinces to allow income to be collected from beyond besieged fortress.

The final evidence in this is there is actually a step, near the very end of the turn sequence, called reclaim province. In this step, if a fort is in a province and does not own that province, but is no longer besieged, the fort will "take ownership" of the province.

So basically, in order to destroy a fortress or a laboratory, one would have to give the order the turn before they are attacked. Once one has been besieged the defender is no longer considered to be the owner of the province and thus cannot impact buildings in the province.

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Shadowlord

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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.06: War in every continent ! :D
« Reply #627 on: July 26, 2014, 01:59:38 am »

The turn before the turn before, I think, for the forts. I issued the orders to demolish both labs and forts the turn before your troops arrived at the forts' provinces, and the forts stayed. The labs were demolished, however. Possibly because they're actually inside the forts.
« Last Edit: July 26, 2014, 02:06:36 am by Shadowlord »
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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.06: War in every continent ! :D
« Reply #628 on: July 26, 2014, 09:42:45 am »

Aw, i wanted to at least see how good Dark Skies is. Abysians have darkvision anyway so it's not like it's that bad for you.

Also where the you get all these cool units.. Adventurers,Ethereal knights, that arena fire spirit is normal conjuration thing i suppose ?
« Last Edit: July 26, 2014, 09:45:13 am by Antur »
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« Reply #629 on: July 26, 2014, 09:52:45 am »

Man, we got burninated. I claim second place, because I actually managed to kill a wisp before getting killed.
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