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MAP : Cradle of dominion ?

Yes !
- 3 (37.5%)
OK with custom ports
- 4 (50%)
it would need 1 wrapping
- 0 (0%)
it would need 2 wrappings
- 0 (0%)
No, and it would look too wierd with wrapping.
- 1 (12.5%)

Total Members Voted: 8

Voting closed: June 02, 2014, 04:59:26 pm


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lijacote

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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.06: Game started ! :D
« Reply #270 on: June 11, 2014, 03:22:12 am »

I might have been exaggerating when I said 50 :P
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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.06: Game started ! :D
« Reply #271 on: June 11, 2014, 03:24:21 am »

Clearly the investment paid off, he repulsed my slave raiders with ease :P
but could have an army now which could take your province or not? it is 820 gold for 0->40
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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.06: Game started ! :D
« Reply #272 on: June 11, 2014, 03:30:04 am »

Am i at 50? I had like 37 i thought, the last 10 form event.
Hm, either way, yeah, expensive fast, and i try to follow the same rules there.
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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.06: Game started ! :D
« Reply #273 on: June 11, 2014, 03:38:57 am »

(Somehow, I thought it was you who said 50pd ... ^^")

But well, yeah. 27+ 10 free is good (and lucky you got the 10pd in a useful province).
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« Reply #274 on: June 11, 2014, 04:37:54 am »

On the plus side, PD regenerates if it wins the battle, so if you did buy 50 PD and it never lost, you'd only have to buy it once...

But it would never be as well-scripted or balanced as an army you could make yourself.
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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.06: Game started ! :D
« Reply #275 on: June 11, 2014, 04:52:10 am »

On the plus side, PD regenerates if it wins the battle, so if you did buy 50 PD and it never lost, you'd only have to buy it once...

But it would never be as well-scripted or balanced as an army you could make yourself.
predictable and static! But yes the "regeneration power" can be great. And it doesn't count to the upkeep cost.
but 50 PD is way to expensive in this play stage. so I'm happy that it was only 27+10 :)
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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.06: Game started ! :D
« Reply #276 on: June 11, 2014, 07:59:43 am »

If it helps you're not the first one to had this happen to him moghopper.
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« Reply #277 on: June 11, 2014, 04:45:57 pm »

Hi, I'm just going to put this out here because I'm a bit cheesed off; Ragnoff has blatantly lied to me in diplomacy, so any deals with him ought to be considered somewhat suspect by others from here on out.

Edit: I'm also going to keep playing out of a feeling of obligation, but the diplomacy with him has really killed my enthusiasm for this game. Once 406 and 407 are over I think I'm just done. Turns out talking to someone with a holier than thou attitude at all times really sucks the fun out of this.
« Last Edit: June 11, 2014, 04:50:31 pm by LongDongSilver »
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« Reply #278 on: June 11, 2014, 05:05:02 pm »

I'd been taking it as given that I shouldn't trust anything anyone says in diplomacy, and expect/prepare to be stabbed in the back at the first opportunity.  But I'm pretty new to multiplayer - is there normally a code of honour with regards diplomacy in these games?
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« Reply #279 on: June 11, 2014, 05:11:40 pm »

I'd been taking it as given that I shouldn't trust anything anyone says in diplomacy, and expect/prepare to be stabbed in the back at the first opportunity.  But I'm pretty new to multiplayer - is there normally a code of honour with regards diplomacy in these games?

Not as such, no.

What's stated in the OP, goes. In most (all?) B12 games it's "trades are binding, anything else goes". Now certainly some people are going to get more hissy than others when met with dishonesty and treachery, but as far as rules or universal honour codes go, there is none. People here don't seem quite as cut throat as some other places, but you'll still get stinged if you take everything here at face value.

The way I see it? Expect treachery and be pleasantly surprised at times.
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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.06: Game started ! :D
« Reply #280 on: June 11, 2014, 05:22:23 pm »

Posturing, lying and betrayal always seemed to me like an integral part of the game. The best part, perhaps.
One needs to keep in mind that Dominions is a Highlander-style game - in the end there can be only one, so there can never be lasting peace, only temporary marriages of necessity and prolonged ceasfires, during which all sides secretly sharpen their knives.
But more importantly, don't take anything personally. Imagine you're talking to Conan the Shwarzeneggarian, or King Kong, or whomever is at the other end of the diplomatic channel. The worst they can do to you is foil your dastardly plan of killing them.
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« Reply #281 on: June 11, 2014, 05:23:16 pm »

Mkay, thanks for clarifying for me.

Also: person I was diplomacying at earlier: I'm totally not planning treachery!  Honest!
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« Reply #282 on: June 11, 2014, 06:41:19 pm »

I did *NOT* to my knowledge lie, although I did spend the last two turns trying hard to either misdirect or get an acknowledgement and/or concession.

It is true the tenor of our exchanges became somewhat acrimonious, but  Yomi took a province that I was expecting to have based on our agreement (we even commisserated about my first attempt at the province in question being beaten back by the indies, immediately after he took the province). When I complained I was told to "chill brah" as he had not *specifically* promised not to take the province in question even though he was suppose to head in a different direction.  Lesson learned, but the agreement was obviously not worth the paper it was printed on. From my perspective, the treaty we discussed was violated by LongDongSilver within 2 turns of when it was made.

As I was boxed in anyways I planned on attacking if the province was not returned and/or amends were not made. When neither happened I assumed that I would be attacked within a few turns, and saw no reason to patiently wait for the knife. Every turn I would grow comparitively weaker, I did not have the position needed to turtle, which would have been a viable option if I had a few more provinces.  I had actually warned LongDongSilver about this possibility (that I could be forced into early war) in my first exchange of messages and was told that my words were extortion.

Everything I stated for the last few messages about what my troops HAD done and COULD be doing was, in fact, true... including that I had summoned mercs to the wrong province (grrr, stupid interface or silly me for not double checking).  My troops were ALSO in position to attack if it became necessary.  I am in a corner, where ELSE besides a border do you expect my troops to be?  When LongDongSilver read the message last night trying to avert war and refused to respond, I presumed I had my answer.  Even so I sent the message that we were now at war and attacked. (Concurrently, of course!  I am not foolish enough to sit for turns after that declaration given what had already happened.)

Note: LongDongSilver was also moving troops to our border the turn before the first battle concurrent with my summoning mercs, I admit to chosing to attack before they got there.
 
LogDongSilver, I am sorry you chose upon losing back to back battles to make this public, that you saw nothing wrong with your actions, that you still insist I was lying (to which I take great offence) and that now I am "Holier than thou" because we have different communication styles.

Find subs for me and you will not have to deal with me in 406 OR 407 and I will avoid all games you joined first.  If you want, find a sub for Yomi and you can take Ulm in 406, I don't think it matters yet in 407. The Dominions community is too small for me to want players to leave in a huff.

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(This is my communication style, and the type of PMs I sent, this is the first time I have been called "Holier than Thou" though.  Perhaps in the future I should try to develope a persona/way of talking for each pretender that is obviously staged.)  :P
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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.06: Game started ! :D
« Reply #283 on: June 11, 2014, 06:51:01 pm »

Being Yomi is suffering, better get used to it. Very hard to play and your chances are slim even as an experienced players.

In my last game I had nice relations with Fomoria and Caelum, talking to them about how I was worried about T'ien C'hi growing to strong. Both of them agreed that it was in everybodys best interest if I checked his movements. Fomoria even offered assistance when things went sour.
Long story short, Caelum backstabbed me while I fought T'ien C'hi and Fomoria took some of my cut off, undefended lands to "salvage the situation" 5 turns after saying he'd help me with Caelum.

Made me stop feeling bad about breaking agreements.
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« Reply #284 on: June 11, 2014, 09:18:35 pm »

in other news. thrones. i remember they're powerfulish magic sites, yes?
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