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Author Topic: ☼Gnomes☼ - Everything Gnome Mode  (Read 80317 times)

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☼Gnomes☼ - Everything Gnome Mode
« on: May 27, 2014, 12:43:15 pm »
« Last Edit: May 27, 2014, 12:47:46 pm by Meph »
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Re: ☼Gnomes☼ - Everything Gnome Mode
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2014, 12:44:13 pm »
Please post all discussion, questions, suggestions and bug reports for Gnomes in this thread. Thank you.
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Re: ☼Gnomes☼ - Everything Gnome Mode
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2014, 01:20:21 pm »
I love that Gnome img XD
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Re: ☼Gnomes☼ - Everything Gnome Mode
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2014, 04:16:14 am »
So, I've finally found the willpower to leave the dwarves alone, and since one of my most common Fortress Death Scenarios involves goblins butchering my defenseless population while I'm still trying to make an intricate minecart system for my stonecutters, I decided to give the gnomes a go :)

Having read through the manual, I have just one question:  When is it beneficial for a gnome to survive, but be unable to move, with "no functioning brain"?  Do they grow back?
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Re: ☼Gnomes☼ - Everything Gnome Mode
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2014, 04:21:23 am »
Well, they dont die to headshots... and transformations do fully heal them. But maybe the damaged brains heal, just like eyes do in DF.
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Re: ☼Gnomes☼ - Everything Gnome Mode
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2014, 04:44:39 am »
Quote from: Innocent Dave on May 28, 2014, 04:16:14 am
So, I've finally found the willpower to leave the dwarves alone, and since one of my most common Fortress Death Scenarios involves goblins butchering my defenseless population while I'm still trying to make an intricate minecart system for my stonecutters, I decided to give the gnomes a go :)

Having read through the manual, I have just one question:  When is it beneficial for a gnome to survive, but be unable to move, with "no functioning brain"?  Do they grow back?

The Life Support armor?  It actually doesn't prevent all movement (they should still be able to crawl somewhat, just not stand or fight).  I don't know if brains grow back, but if not you can give them a clockborg brainjack to replace it.  The ability to prevent drowning or suffocation can also come in handy.
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Re: ☼Gnomes☼ - Everything Gnome Mode
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2014, 06:50:00 am »
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...\Dwarf Fortress\hack\scripts/construct-creature.lua:565: attempt to get length of global 'args' (a nil value)
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        ...\Dwarf Fortress\hack\scripts/construct-creature.lua:565: in main chunk
        (...tail calls...)
I get this when I start up DF, using your newest update. The current release MDF has Gnomes .77, while your Gnome thread had a .78 with some more bugfixes. Is that error message just because the scripts needs a loaded world?
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Re: ☼Gnomes☼ - Everything Gnome Mode
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2014, 07:00:05 am »
It could be.  I don't recall seeing that particular error, but it's probably trying to read nonexistent raws or something of the sort.  Shouldn't have any effect on gameplay but I'll try and fix it for neatness' sake.
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Re: ☼Gnomes☼ - Everything Gnome Mode
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2014, 09:35:10 am »
Wait what this bit about firing cages at people to trap them?
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Re: ☼Gnomes☼ - Everything Gnome Mode
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2014, 10:41:42 am »
Quote from: Rumrusher on May 28, 2014, 09:35:10 am
Wait what this bit about firing cages at people to trap them?

It is exactly what it sounds like.  Turn cages into ammo, shoot at target, target is caged.  Caging big creatures is harder, you have to injure them first.  If you miss or fail to capture the target, the projectile turns back into a cage.
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Re: ☼Gnomes☼ - Everything Gnome Mode
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2014, 07:38:58 pm »
McTeellox did send me the output of a script that finds unused reactions. (defined, but dont exist. Or exist, but are not permitted.)

The gnomes have a lot of those, but I most of the are dfhack hooks. I just want to make sure.

Spoiler: Are all these disabled intentionally? They exist as reaction but are not permitted in the entity file. (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: I think these are dfhack hooks. They are also not permitted in the entity file. (click to show/hide)

There are also some duplicate hotkeys: The number in the brackets, like (#) shows how often a hotkey is used in the same building. Seems you have 14 reactions in the catapult that use CUSTOM_A. ;)

Spoiler: Hotkeys (click to show/hide)
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Re: ☼Gnomes☼ - Everything Gnome Mode
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2014, 08:03:14 pm »
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Re: ☼Gnomes☼ - Everything Gnome Mode
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2014, 11:18:45 pm »
Some of those reactions are placeholders for things that I haven't gotten working or holdovers from earlier versions, but a few are not supposed to be disabled, I'll have to go over them and check.  I'm making a few changes for the next update, so I'll go over them.  However, the smelting reactions and others that are assigned to be used by factories are supposed to be disabled, they are used by the machina script to make custom (mod specific) automatic factory processes.
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Re: ☼Gnomes☼ - Everything Gnome Mode
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2014, 05:37:38 am »
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how you open crate bought at embark?
They are tools that are unpacked automatically in the Trade Storehouse. A custom workshop just for that.
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Re: ☼Gnomes☼ - Everything Gnome Mode
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2014, 02:43:58 pm »
So I'm going to try doing a tutorial fort.

Probably won't last too long but someone has to do it.
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