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[Sver]

Well, I don't understand DF modding good enough to suggest something on this, but still. If making creatures from corpses through interactions is still possible, why not? If regular zombies would be just more controllable (e.g. not OPPOSED_TO_LIFE all the time), it would be efficient and close to vanilla at the same time.

But, I guess, it wouldn't work, because raised corpses won't be considered player's civ members anyway

[Meph]

It's NOT possible.

Reanimating a corpse is possible. Not creating a new creature.

[Sver]

I mean, is it possible to create zombie-citizens from corpses (not discussing the source of said corpses)?

[Meph]

No.

[Sver]

Well, it came to its logical conclusion.

[LMeire]

That leaves the issue of... what kind of peasantry? Elven peasants and a crazy elven druid? Dwarven peasants and a crazy dwarven magmamancer turning people into golems? Human peasants with a crazy necromancers?

I need a base creature for them... I'd assume they'd be humans.

My first impulse is to say all three, with that 'multiple sub-groups within a civ' idea that was kicked around a while ago for elves and humans. But since that'd probably be too much work while you're on the road I think a poll would probably be better, there's a lot of forum-goers that don't say much otherwise. I'd probably vote for the human necromancers too; they've already got a lot of structural depth to them so they'll probably feel "complete" faster, plus the 'evil/crazy wizard' is pretty much always a super-ambitious human in generic fantasy settings like this. But more people might feel dwarves are better for the role, since the game is kinda named after them and amoral "dwarven science" threads are pretty typical of the DF fanbase- if not the canonical "Always lawful good" DF dwarves.

[Meph]

Since caste-specific graphics dont really work, it would mean a civ for each.

[misiekm]

Has anyone figured out if it's at all possible to make skeletons reliably gain skills by training?
 I suppose there are always the old danger rooms, but that's a last resort if anything.

[lordofgilneas]

I don't know if anyone has reported this. But if you try to create a squad using steward the game crashes. Also.... None of my starter warlocks/witches are viable candidates for ghoulmaster or crypt lord... Who do I appoint?

[Emperor]

I don't know if anyone has reported this. But if you try to create a squad using steward the game crashes. Also.... None of my starter warlocks/witches are viable candidates for ghoulmaster or crypt lord... Who do I appoint?

Cryptlord is a skeleton commander, and so is ghoulmaster, but for ghouls instead. So, cryptlord needs to be a skeleton, and ghoulmaster needs to be a ghoul.

No idea about the steward crash, though.

[lordofgilneas]

I see.... So how do I get ghouls or skeles? I didn't start with any.

[Emperor]

Ghouls can be created from caged prisoners in the Corruption Chamber. Skeletons, on the other hand, are created in the Necromantic Shrine, from one soul, 10 bones, a totem and some thread.

[lordofgilneas]

Thank you for the advice.

[Enepttastic]

Ghouls can be created from caged prisoners in the Corruption Chamber. Skeletons, on the other hand, are created in the Necromantic Shrine, from one soul, 10 bones, a totem and some thread.

Actually, skeletons use leather, not thread.

Quick bit of head's up: There's some errors in the raws relating to ghouls. You can only promote a non-augmented ghoul(i.e. no four armed, two headed, or both) to Ghoulmaster. This can be fixed by popping into your raws folder(dwarffortress/raws/objects) and finding entity_evil_warlock.txt and changing this:

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[POSITION:GHOUL_COMMANDER] => ghoul only squad leader
   [NAME:ghoul master:ghoul masters]
   [ALLOWED_CREATURE:WARLOCK_CIV:GHOUL]
   [SITE]

to this:

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[POSITION:GHOUL_COMMANDER] => ghoul only squad leader
   [NAME:ghoul master:ghoul masters]
   [ALLOWED_CREATURE:WARLOCK_CIV:GHOUL]
   [ALLOWED_CREATURE:WARLOCK_CIV:GHOUL_2HEAD]
   [ALLOWED_CREATURE:WARLOCK_CIV:GHOUL_4ARM]
   [ALLOWED_CREATURE:WARLOCK_CIV:GHOUL_2HEAD_4ARM]
   [SITE]

Sadly, you would need to generate a new world for the change to take effect. If you're messing in the raws to fix that, you may as well fix the ghoul upgrades as well in reaction_warlock.txt info for that can be found here.

That said, after looking into the steward squad bug, I can't figure out why the hell it's happening. As far as I can see, there's nothing in the raws for the position that'd have it show up in the military screen. Granted I'm not really fond of how the Warlock military's set up period so I've been contemplating doing some tweaks to restructure it as a whole. Half-thinking of giving the Steward a squad in order to circumvent that bug as well as giving me an option for a non-combatant squad so I can make sure my warlocks have armor. Also debating on changing the Crypt Lord position to be unrestricted and removing the Ghoulmaster position altogether.

[lordofgilneas]

Yeah thought you ought to know. Thanks man.