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jaxler

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I realize the gravity of my mistake...
« on: May 22, 2014, 03:29:16 pm »

I mass produced clothes, and made gold bins.

The bins are so heavy that they never get from point A to be, and the FPS drain from the clothes is huge....

I used gold for a lot of other stuff too, and the haulers are moving so slow...
« Last Edit: May 22, 2014, 03:37:06 pm by jaxler »
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Re: I realize the gravity of my mistake...
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2014, 03:54:47 pm »

There's only one thing to do now. Bathe everything in magma. That, or forbid and empty all your gold bins and have them melted down.
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Re: I realize the gravity of my mistake...
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2014, 04:03:01 pm »

I mass produced clothes, and made gold bins.

The bins are so heavy that they never get from point A to be, and the FPS drain from the clothes is huge....

I used gold for a lot of other stuff too, and the haulers are moving so slow...

You poor bastard. Bins have to be one of the single most detrimental things one can do to their FPS. I curse the light wooden ones I have made. I can't imagine the horrors caused by making them of something like gold.

Nice stealth pun in the title, btw.  8)
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Re: I realize the gravity of my mistake...
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2014, 06:44:53 pm »

Yay puns! 

Your situation is a very weighty matter, indeed! Though for some people it would have bin a golden opportunity.

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Re: I realize the gravity of my mistake...
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2014, 08:37:58 pm »

Nonsense. Gold weighs only about 1/4 as much as sand, according to my sources here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gU35Tgtlmg
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Re: I realize the gravity of my mistake...
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2014, 10:39:35 pm »

It's not that hard to solve, really. Just dump the clothes from inside the bins and sell or melt them, then make lighter bins. If you have so much clothes it affects the FPS, sell them too. I personally recommend glass bins, they're surprisingly lighter than wooden ones. If you really want them to stop hauling from slowing down due to bins, you can just forgo them and just make a bigger stockpile.
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Re: I realize the gravity of my mistake...
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2014, 12:06:51 am »

or make a smaller stockpile  8)

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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2014, 10:12:07 am »

I personally recommend glass bins, they're surprisingly lighter than wooden ones.
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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2014, 10:20:14 am »

I personally recommend glass bins, they're surprisingly lighter than wooden ones.

This should not be true:  http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012:Density

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Re: I realize the gravity of my mistake...
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2014, 03:29:06 am »

I personally recommend glass bins, they're surprisingly lighter than wooden ones.
Are you running a modded game? In a vanilla game, bins cannot be made out of glass (only a log of wood or three bars of metal). Also, as puke pointed out, the density of glass is considerably greater than that of wood, so testing of other items that CAN be compared further disproves this theory (just as a quick test I made a wooden chest out of ash and a green glass box - the ashen chest had a weight of 12 while the glass box weighed 52, thus the one made of wood was much lighter. To make sure it wasn't just an error that you were mixing up glass boxes and wooden bins, I then made an ashen bin, which weighed just 9)
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Re: I realize the gravity of my mistake...
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2014, 12:18:06 am »

he is probably using Masterwork.
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Re: I realize the gravity of my mistake...
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2014, 10:34:13 am »

o.O bins mess up fps?
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« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2014, 10:53:11 am »

I'm really not sure how.

I am, however, a little frustrated by some of the new hauling features in 2012.  Used to be, dwarf would go pickup one item, bring it back to stockpile, drop it in a bin.

Now, dwarf goes to stockpile, gets a bin, goes to pickup item, brings bin and item back to stockpile.

Would be better if they managed to pickup multiple items at once, but they never seem to do this.  Is there a way to disable the use of bins for hauling.  I'm a little fuzzy on how the "feeder" stockpiles the wiki mentions are supposed to work.  What is to prevent dwarfs from taking bins directly from and to the "fed" pile?
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« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2014, 11:31:33 am »

Generally, from my experience, if they have a bin and are picking up items for that bin they will pick up as many as they can for that bin.

Its been a while since I looked at the wiki but I'm guessing the feeder stockpiles are either stockpiles set to give to other stockpiles(or stockpiles set to be taken from), either in the stockpile q options or, as stockpiles routes take items from
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« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2014, 12:26:46 pm »

I've been following the stunty little bastards, and they'll move a bin to pick up a single item all the time.

Might be a problem with multiple jobs queued for multiple dwarfs for similar items, but it seems to happen quite often.

The extent of the wiki information is "use a feeder pile with bins disabled" which I totally get.  The question is: what stops dwarfs from using the main pile that is being fed, which still has bins enabled?  Distance?
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