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[mifki]

Nice tutorial!

[Meph]

Now you make a beautiful masterpiece of a pixelated bin on that top-left spot. It should be 16x16 pixels, because thats what both Phoebus and Obsidian use for their sets. If you make it larger or smaller, it will still work, but look blurry ingame.

But you can use a 24x24 tileset, and then avoid blurriness with 24x24 graphics tiles, right?

You can use a 24x24 pixel tileset, as long as its still 16x16 tiles. Yes. As long as the pixel dimension of the tilesets meet, nothing gets blurred.

Mifki: Thanks. If you want to copy/include it somewhere, feel free.

[Dirst]

Thanks mifki and Meph, I'm pretty sure that's what I did (though I copied some extra files as well), but I'll do it again on a clean LNP install when I get home.

When I saw source code, header files and a makefile in the TWBT archive, you had me worried for a minute there.

Edit: The plugin was doing its thing just fine, it was just scaling my 9x16 font into 16x16 cells so I didn't recognize it.  I'm also having a slapfight with my antivirus which keeps insisting that the Starter Pack Launcher and DFHack r5 are malware.

The in-game text has punctuation!  Who knew?

[fricy]

@mifki: I'd like to inquire when can we expect a new version. Few days? I'm planning a new pack this weekend, should I wait for twbt, or do you need more time, and just go ahead?
What I need at this stage is an r5 version that does not crash with 2D print mode, so I could package Meph's override graphics, and the legacy graphics too. Other override features will be handy, but what we have now is very nice, and I'd like to release it before we have a DF2014.

[Meph]

What I need at this stage is an r5 version that does not crash with 2D print mode

That will not be possible, except if Toady One changes all the graphic code.

[fricy]

What I need at this stage is an r5 version that does not crash with 2D print mode

That will not be possible, except if Toady One changes all the graphic code.

I disagree until mifki tells me otherwise, although I can see why you misunderstood: what I meant is a simple check that stops the plugin gracefully with 2D printmode, and loads the plugin with STANDARD/etc. What we have now is a crash with 2D, and it's not good for me, because I can't mix the graphics modes in the same pack.

[Meph]

Oh, sorry. I thought you mean run TwbT on 2D. Thats not possible, because the renderer needs opengl, same as Rendermax.

Changing printmode makes much more sense.

[falcn]

For me most anticipated feature is non-square text. Everything else pales in comparison. No matter how many bugs it will bring, totally worth it.
Just imagine - readable text in DF! Unbelievable.

mifki, please, include the code in the next release.

[scamtank]

Include? The whole thing is wide open on github already.

[palu]

Is the multi-z view on Github too?

[falcn]

Include? The whole thing is wide open on github already.

Yep, missed the second branch, thanks for the tip

[mifki]

Answering all questions:

I'm planning to add proper checks to the current (non-multilevel) version so that you can include it in packs.

There will be no support for non-square text in the near future, sorry. I don't know how to do that to achieve what you want. I have some ideas but first I need to finish with everything else.

Yes, source code is on github now, but I didn't announce this because it's in a very bad state right now, Windows version doesn't work at all yet. Once I have first working build, I'll announce that and you can test it.

[falcn]

There will be no support for non-square text in the near future, sorry. I don't know how to do that to achieve what you want.

Hmmm.
I was referring to this pic



The text in the lower screenshot is more readable because letters are not square (yet the tiles are square!).

Maybe not as good as 2D/Truetype, but much better than what we have now.
Comparison (press left/right)

[GavJ]

The tiles aren't square. The text tiles in the above images are 16x16 top, 16x13 bottom.

[falcn]

The tiles aren't square. The text tiles in the above images are 16x16 top, 16x13 bottom.

That's what I said. Graphic tiles are square, text is not. Pic is taken from page 6