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[Meph]

Just as a resource for others that might try their hands on override tilesets, here a list of multi-used tiles that previously could not be changed, and would benefit greatly from some new graphics. They are certainly on my todo list.

Hardcoded tiles that could use new graphics:

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• 08 = Nestbox. (item/building) Book. catapult cup/castle.
• 09 = Well. Millstone. Quern. (item/building)
• 11 = bags and male sign
• 12 = amulet and female sign
• 15 = Unmined Gem Cluster*, Rough Gems and Raw Glass, unmined bituminous coal*, mined bituminous coal*, currency symbol, masterpiece quality symbol, spider webs, pond turtle*, sun, gear assemblies, fireballs, bandit camps on travel map
• 19 = Cages, on-fire symbol, vertical bars
• 22 = Logs, hive tool*, hive building
• 48 = Coffins
• 49,50,51,52,53,54,55 = 1/7 water. (maybe just use different shading, no numbers)
• 68 = Dragon#, Draltha#, Depot Access Display, text (D)
• 73 = Support, Necromancer's tower on world map, text (I)
• 79 = Trade depot post, glass portal, Tile in Farm Workshop, column$, wall construction, Giant Olm, full moon on travel map and dwarf mode, text (O)
• 87 = Depot Access Display, Text (W)
• 88 = Bin, floodgate, shop post, building footprint, Depot Access Display, text, up/down stairs, Tile in Ashery, keyboard cursor, Archery target,
  Nausea / Winded / Stunned / Unconscious / Migrant indicator (X)
• 94 = Trap, Alabaster*, Volcano on world map
• 110 = Hilly Grassland(?) on Map, Text (n)
• 111 = Well construction, bridge construction, text, millstone in action, vertical axle in action, floor tile in magma furnaces (o)
• 126 = Unfinished rough stone road, flowing water, dirt road, farm plot under construction, sand, furrowed soil, blood smear, guts
• 143 = Figurines, shrines on travel map, text
• 145 = Toys, hamlets on world map
• 146 = Coffers, quivers, backpacks, hamlets on world map
• 159 = splints
• 194 = Overworld rivers/Roads, crutches
• 205 = Smooth/constructed walls, bridges, planted crops, center catapult tile, center Ballista tile, axles, tracks$, fortress walls on travel map
• 239 = Hills on world map, slab building
• 242 = Debris (spent ammo, ballista bolts, and catapult stones), ashes
• 243 = Debris (spent ammo, ballista bolts, and catapult stones), ashes
• 246 = Barrel, screw pump, upper left tile of still (works well as barrel)
• 247 = Rough stone road or bridge, water, magma, snow, glob (fat/tallow), farm plot, furrowed soil, vomit, blood pools, sea foam, sand
• 248 = Sea foam, eggs
• 249 = Blocks, trees at lower elevation, minecarts*, human houses/shops on travel map

[PeridexisErrant]

Is there an ETA for the new version with multi-Z view?

All other dfhack scripts and plugins need a line in the dfhack init to work. "Rendermax light" or "something enable" or just the scripts name. But TwbT loads all the time, as long as the .dll is active.

Could you add an on/off switch? When the .dll is added it doesnt automatically start, but needs a "TwbT enable" in the dfhack init or dfhack command window, and a "TwbT disable" would turn it off?

Seconded.  The conflict with the Stonesense overlay makes this particularly painful, as I'm committed to using isometric graphics to bring in new players.  Once TwbT can be toggled it's going in the Starter Pack, but until then I can't leave newbies to crash.

[GavJ]

a golden cookie for the first person to put out a fully icon-ized default/ASCII type variant tileset using this. I tried myself, but very quickly got overwhelmed / realized that I'm not actually a good pixel artist.

[fricy]

a golden cookie for the first person to put out a fully icon-ized default/ASCII type variant tileset using this. I tried myself, but very quickly got overwhelmed / realized that I'm not actually a good pixel artist.

Milo's MLC tileset is quite a step in that direction.

All other dfhack scripts and plugins need a line in the dfhack init to work. "Rendermax light" or "something enable" or just the scripts name. But TwbT loads all the time, as long as the .dll is active.
Could you add an on/off switch? When the .dll is added it doesnt automatically start, but needs a "TwbT enable" in the dfhack init or dfhack command window, and a "TwbT disable" would turn it off?

Seconded, plus please add a check for the plugin, so it doesn't crash the game when it detects a non-opengl printmode. Until that I'm unable to include the plugin.

[CLA]

a golden cookie for the first person to put out a fully icon-ized default/ASCII type variant tileset using this. I tried myself, but very quickly got overwhelmed / realized that I'm not actually a good pixel artist.

I'm already working on it, though I won't have icons for every little thing. I want to keep it simple. I don't think the female sign and the amulet need separate icons, and '≈' is enough for all the things it currently represents, too.
But the worst offenders (punctuation/text, bins/u-d-stairs/cursor, status indicators) and some useful ones (weapon types, armor) will get their own symbols. Most is already done, I'm just waiting for the new version of twbt and DF. Probably will do something with the new trees, too.

[mifki]

I'm now finishing setting up an automatic build server that will produce binaries for all platforms when I make changes. Spent several days on choosing the best software for this, but I really don't like the part of development process where I need to write change logs, make packages, upload them... And it was good to learn about all this software.

Once it's done, there will be packages available for the current version, and for multilevel rendering (ok for testing/playing, but without guarantee of not being broken sometimes). I possibly will fix some things in the current version, like error checks and a command to enable/disable the plugin while I'm making multilevel stuff ready for a release.

[Warmist]

I'm now finishing setting up an automatic build server that will produce binaries for all platforms when I make changes. Spent several days on choosing the best software for this, but I really don't like the part of development process where I need to write change logs, make packages, upload them... And it was good to learn about all this software.

Once it's done, there will be packages available for the current version, and for multilevel rendering (ok for testing/playing, but without guarantee of not being broken sometimes). I possibly will fix some things in the current version, like error checks and a command to enable/disable the plugin while I'm making multilevel stuff ready for a release.

Are you planning to add your code to dfhack repository?

[PeridexisErrant]

Are you planning to add your code to dfhack repository?

Please do this!

[mifki]

I'm now finishing setting up an automatic build server that will produce binaries for all platforms when I make changes. Spent several days on choosing the best software for this, but I really don't like the part of development process where I need to write change logs, make packages, upload them... And it was good to learn about all this software.

Once it's done, there will be packages available for the current version, and for multilevel rendering (ok for testing/playing, but without guarantee of not being broken sometimes). I possibly will fix some things in the current version, like error checks and a command to enable/disable the plugin while I'm making multilevel stuff ready for a release.

Are you planning to add your code to dfhack repository?

I don't know. I'll make my repository public, and then it can be added to wherever you want, but I possibly prefer to work and mess with things in my own place.

[Warmist]

Well mostly i'm asking for the "planning" part. I think it would need changes e.g. currently it does not work if anything else overwrites renderer (afaik crashes with rendermax plugin).

[mifki]

Well mostly i'm asking for the "planning" part. I think it would need changes e.g. currently it does not work if anything else overwrites renderer (afaik crashes with rendermax plugin).

Btw, I wrote some time ago, it doesn't crash with rendermax trippy and other modes except light, so maybe it's not about overriding renderer. I'll try to investigate later.

[Warmist]

Well mostly i'm asking for the "planning" part. I think it would need changes e.g. currently it does not work if anything else overwrites renderer (afaik crashes with rendermax plugin).

Btw, I wrote some time ago, it doesn't crash with rendermax trippy and other modes except light, so maybe it's not about overriding renderer. I'll try to investigate later.

Hmm that is strange. Sounds like it could be on rendermax's side...

[Clownmite]

This thread contains some of the most exciting developments since I started playing DF. Amazing work, mifki.

[Footkerchief]

Are you planning to add your code to dfhack repository?

I don't know. I'll make my repository public, and then it can be added to wherever you want, but I possibly prefer to work and mess with things in my own place.

Just a note -- you could maintain a personal fork of the DFHack repo to work in, and use pull requests to submit your changes to DFHack.  This is a common collaboration pattern.

[falcn]

mifki, will this feature make it into the release?



...and thank you for your hard work, things that TWBT does already are simply amazing. MultiScroll plugin is awesome too!