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[Meph]

Thank you mifki, I will have a try.

yawa: Have a look here as well: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=139579.0 Its still for 34.11, but has all items.

[Vattic]

Spoiler: never mind (click to show/hide)

After installing this and running DF I get the following popup error:

Dwarf Fortress.exe - Entry Point Not Found

The procedure entry point ??0renderer@df@@IAE@PAVvirtual_identity@DFHack@@@Z could not be located in the dynamic link library SDL.dll.

And in the DFHacl terminal I get the following:

Can't load plugin D:\Games\Dwarf Fortress\df 34 11 DFH\hack\plugins\twbt.plug.dll

I'm on Windows 7 64bit and I've tried it with DFHack 0.34.11-r3 and r5 with the same result.

Am I doing something wrong?

Edit: I had problems, a restart fixed them somehow.

[Meph]

Is it possible for you to make overrides for walls based on materials?

I was thinking about making a set for stone, wood, metal and glass walls, with the stone looking like the walls do currently, wooden ones look like pallisades, metal ones are solid sheets and glass one are thin, more like windows.

I know that doors look differently when you make them from these materials, so maybe there is some way to use the same mechanism for Twbt. (?)

[Roses]

I have a suggestion/request/inquiry. I'm not sure if it is even possible, but there is the syndrome effect CE_DISPLAY_TILE, it would be very awesome if we could find a way to override the creature with that tile to a different creature sprite. So if you have a syndrome that "freezes" the target it could change into a block of ice or something. Similarly, different caste sprites would be amazing as well if it were possible.

Lastly, it has been awhile since I last looked at TWBT since I have been working on porting DFHack scripts, but has background color for items been talked about at all? Is it something that is possible?

[Meph]

Background color has not been worked at.

Creature overrides cannot be done atm. Only items and buildings. I would assume that is might be possible if people play without creature sprites, instead using tiles.

I would like to second the idea that caste-specific creature graphics would be amazing.

[mifki]

Wait, what's the problem with background colour? I seem to have missed something.

[Meph]

I think that Twbt doesnt recognize transparency correctly on the tiles. Every transparent bit on a png is usually filled with the background color, the more transparent, the more vivid the color. TwbT tiles are always solid foreground, no background. This means that multi-colored items cant be done... and that the floor around the item will always take on the color of the item (or has to be made solid black, which doesnt fit so well ingame)

[mifki]

I understand what you're talking about, but I did some tests and can't see the problem. I even tried on Windows.. Can you provide savegame and other required files to reproduce the problem?

[mifki]

Hey guys, I'm still waiting for some help with colour tokens and for an example of incorrectly rendered tile background, if you want them to be improved/fixed.

[Roses]

I don't have an example save, but Meph first mentioned it here, so I'm guessing he has some sort of working example.

[Meph]

Oh, I forgot I already did that... I wanted to do the same thing again today. I used the workshop draw utility I test all my tiles with it. So what more do you need, a save with items showing these properties?

[mifki]

What I see so far is that it's a limitation of DF itself, it's just not supported for all objects. See - on the left are barrels that I set to use the same tile as buckets on the right.

[Roses]

Interesting. So some objects just ignore the transparency of a tile? I wonder what determines if an object will read the transparency. It's too bad too, because the items on the right look a lot better than the items on the left

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[mifki]

Well, objects don't know anything about tiles, so I think background is just set to black for some objects regardless actual material colour.
In wiki it says "The color of objects made of this material which use both the foreground and background color: doors, floodgates, hatch covers, bins, barrels, and cages.", but I don't know whether this list is complete or just an example of such objects.

Anyway it's quite disappointing and I don't see any reason for it. There's a very small chance that this can be fixed with binpatching, I'll take a look later.

[Meph]

Thanks for looking into it. Its not that big a deal, it only stops multi-colored items or showing contaminants on items. I still havent found the time to test your new version for building tiles, but it looked like you got that fixed handidly. Nor found the time to make all tool graphics.

Next stop for Twbt: Caste-specific creature sprites (?)