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[Kaitol]

I don't suppose anyone knows roughly how much dex is required to get a low damage variance?

[majikero]

Not enough. That's all you need to know.

[Seriyu]

Yeah, dex overall is an enigma I'm afraid. They've kept a pretty tight lid on stat formulas in general really.

[Jelle]

I don't suppose anyone knows roughly how much dex is required to get a low damage variance?

It depends on the attack on your weapon and your targets dex. The exact formula for lower damage treshold I think is ((atk-watk-def)*0.2+((adex-ddex)*0.4))*m where atk your attack of that type, watk the base damage of the weapon yoou're using, def the defense of your opponent to that type, adex your dex and ddex defenders dex and finally m whatever dmg modifiers you have. I calculated the amount of dex required to hit the 90% cap some pages ago, see if I can find it.

Since the dex matter eludes me I thought I'd do some research and do some maths on how useful it is exactlty.

If this source is correct and I didn't make an error, in any particular attack the max dexterity you'll benefit from (ensuring a 90-100 interval) should be this
dex = 0.08 ( 0.1 ( def - atk ) + batk ) + ddex
Where dex is attacker's dex, ddex defenders dex, def defenders defense for the dmg type, atk attackers attack for that damage type and batk the base damage on the weapon being used.

Going to double check this as I was in a hurry. Will also edit in some attack vs dex comparison when I get around it.

Edit: Assuming every damage value in the range has the same odds, I take avgdmg as the average of max and min dmg.
d(avgdmg)/ddex / d(avgdmg)/datk = 1.
Wait what they scale precisely the same so long as dex doesn't hit the cap? Huh, I wonder if I made a mistake.

Could have miscalculated. Also for the scaling I didn't factor in crits wich makes atk a bit better than dex.

How much dex monsters have is anyones guess I suppose. Could do some experiments and calculate it per monster per difficulty, but ain't nobody got time for that..
Either way, rares with their built in 90% variance make dex pointless for offense so it all doesn't matter much (poor design rant rant poor design).

Edit: I'll recalculate it later, I think I might be off an order of magnitude somewhere.
Edit2: Here much better: dex=ddex+(watk+def/10-atk/10)/2. Dunno where I went wrong last time haha.

[Dostoevsky]

Note that Grinding and extending stack, to boot.

Quick clarifying question on this-- does that mean in order to get the most out of a weapon you need to grind to +10, THEN extend, then grind again (if needed)? Or is the order not important?

[Seriyu]

Nah, just that the bonuses stack. Order is not important.

[Dostoevsky]

Nah, just that the bonuses stack. Order is not important.

Goodness, thanks. I was beginning to have nightmares of inception-like levels of grinding.

[Seriyu]

Hahahah, nah, just the three sets of +10 grinding, and even then that's more of a resource grind then a time grind. You can get grinders pretty much anywhere, and while time attacks are notably superior sources of money, it's not at too bad a rate anywhere else.

[Kaitol]

Anyone have personal experience deleting characters? Because I got the whole ctrl-click part, and I waited a half hour past the time it listed, and the character's still there. Do I need to do something else now? Last time I tried fiddling with it, it canceled the countdown and I had to start over.

[TTHSK]

Anyone have personal experience deleting characters? Because I got the whole ctrl-click part, and I waited a half hour past the time it listed, and the character's still there. Do I need to do something else now? Last time I tried fiddling with it, it canceled the countdown and I had to start over.

I deleted my mucked up character with which I'd chosen the wrong race; they disappeared eventually but I don't know whether that happened at the time listed or not. From memory it took at least a day before they were gone, though.

[Jelle]

Anyone have personal experience deleting characters? Because I got the whole ctrl-click part, and I waited a half hour past the time it listed, and the character's still there. Do I need to do something else now? Last time I tried fiddling with it, it canceled the countdown and I had to start over.

Takes exactly 24 hours after you've confirmed the character for deletion, during wich you can cancel if you change your mind. It's a little annoying.

[Seriyu]

I have no idea why MMOs do that, plenty of them do it, I just can't figure out why.

Also, team quests have changed. If you found last week's to be a pain, take another look! Most of them aren't too terrible. Note that boosted (enemy type here) means they have the little bulbs on them with the extra weakpoint.

[Hawkfrost]

I have no idea why MMOs do that, plenty of them do it, I just can't figure out why.

It's to give people who have decided to quit and delete their characters the chance to rethink that decision and come back to the game. Essentially, a means to not lose sales.
If you erase your character and then get regrets, normally it's too late and so you would just move on and and accept giving up the MMO. Addicts often relapse shorting after attempting to go clean.

[Kaitol]

So while browsing the wiki I came across something rather Unique. The Soul of Wopal. A katana... with T-attack.

Unfortunately its a PSO2 EP2 Deluxe Package Item Code, but still, if one could find one for sale...

However given its rather low rarity it would be outclassed by pretty much anything though. And correct me if I'm wrong, but extending it would erase that T-attack, wouldn't it?

So unfortunate that unusual weapons like that are so rare, and often so mediocre as to be useless.

Still. It does bring a few unusual ideas to mind.

There are a couple other katana with T-attack but it's generally a secondary stat. If the soul of Wopal kept its T-attack through extensions... it would be very good for a hybrid build

[majikero]

If you really want to do that, you're going to have to get Aseracta(11*) for katanas or  Vibras bow(10*) for bows.