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[Zanzetkuken The Great]

Hey Lemon, why haven't you had my place renamed 'the Ancoran Confederacy, like I asked at turn 7?

Please rename my nation to 'the Ancoran Confederacy' after the turn is run.  I am building up a city.

[lemon10]

Hey Lemon, why haven't you had my place renamed 'the Ancoran Confederacy, like I asked at turn 7?

Please rename my nation to 'the Ancoran Confederacy' after the turn is run.  I am building up a city.

Sorry, I missed your request. I'll change it next turn.

[Rolepgeek]

So, uhhh...
Who doesn't like WIFOM? Or hordes? Hordes are fun.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

<playerturn player="Rolepgeek">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="bCity" x="23" y="12">
      <cityname>Meinas</cityname>
    </tileorder>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="24" y="12"/>
    <tileorder type="bRoad" x="14" y="18"/>
    <tileorder type="bRoad" x="17" y="10"/>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="13">
      <unittype code="spear"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="2">
      <unittype code="spear"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="11">
      <unittype code="axem"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="17">
      <building code="trnF"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rnCity" cityid="2">
      <cityname>Ista</cityname>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rnCity" cityid="11">
      <cityname>Bennel</cityname>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rnCity" cityid="13">
      <cityname>Belline</cityname>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rnCity" cityid="13">
      <cityname>Farrum</cityname>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rnCity" cityid="17">
      <cityname>Kerav</cityname>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rnCity" cityid="11">
      <cityname>Bachein</cityname>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders>
    <armyorgorder type="rnUnit" armyid="67" x="20" y="20">
      <targetunit unitid="63"/>
      <newname>Third Axes</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="62" x="15" y="17">
      <targetunit unitid="58"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="15"/>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="54" x="15" y="17">
      <targetunit unitid="51"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="15"/>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="dArmy" armyid="62" x="15" y="17"/>
    <armyorgorder type="dArmy" armyid="54" x="15" y="17"/>
  </armyorgorders>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="53" x="16" y="17">
      <step dx="-1" dy="0"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="63" x="19" y="19">
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="67" x="20" y="20">
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>

[notquitethere]

(I really shouldn't be staying up until 2.20AM to play this game but every turn takes longer than the last.)

Spoiler: Turn 28 (click to show/hide)

<playerturn player="notquitethere">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="bImp" x="12" y="21">
      <improvement code="horseI"/>
    </tileorder>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="7" y="9"/>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="8" y="7"/>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="14">
      <unittype code="spear"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="12">
      <unittype code="pike"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="19">
      <building code="trnF"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="8">
      <unittype code="pike"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders>
    <armyorgorder type="rnArmy" armyid="64" x="8" y="16">
      <newname>Frog Catchers</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="55" x="14" y="17">
      <targetunit unitid="52"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="24"/>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="dArmy" armyid="55" x="14" y="17"/>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="69" x="14" y="17">
      <targetunit unitid="65"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="24"/>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="dArmy" armyid="69" x="14" y="17"/>
    <armyorgorder type="dUnit" armyid="45" x="12" y="2">
      <targetunit unitid="42"/>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="dArmy" armyid="45" x="12" y="2"/>
    <armyorgorder type="nArmy" armyid="notquitethere71" x="14" y="17"/>
    <armyorgorder type="rnArmy" armyid="notquitethere71" x="14" y="17">
      <newname>Nuisance</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="24" x="14" y="17">
      <targetunit unitid="52"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="notquitethere71"/>
    </armyorgorder>
  </armyorgorders>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="11" x="6" y="7">
      <step dx="1" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="49" x="12" y="19">
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="64" x="8" y="16">
      <step dx="-1" dy="0"/>
      <step dx="-1" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="3" x="15" y="7">
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="notquitethere71" x="14" y="17">
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>

[Kashyyk]

75% defence on Mountains? i thought it was only 50...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

<playerturn player="Kashyyk">
  <tileorders/>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="7">
      <building code="wWall"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="5">
      <unittype code="pike"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="65" x="14" y="7">
      <targetunit unitid="61"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="57"/>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="47" x="14" y="7">
      <targetunit unitid="47"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="57"/>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="47" x="14" y="7">
      <targetunit unitid="55"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="57"/>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="dArmy" armyid="47" x="14" y="7"/>
    <armyorgorder type="dArmy" armyid="65" x="14" y="7"/>
    <armyorgorder type="rnUnit" armyid="57" x="14" y="7">
      <targetunit unitid="61"/>
      <newname>1st Archers</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="rnUnit" armyid="70" x="12" y="7">
      <targetunit unitid="66"/>
      <newname>1st Swiss</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="rnArmy" armyid="70" x="12" y="7">
      <newname>Forstis Garrison</newname>
    </armyorgorder>
  </armyorgorders>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="conq" armyid="12" x="9" y="7"/>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>

[Rolepgeek]

25 on forests, 50 on hills, 75 on mountains.

Do terrain defense bonuses stack with city defense bonuses, or does only the higher one apply?

[lemon10]

Pretty sure they stack. You can get some pretty crazy defense.

75% defence on Mountains? i thought it was 50.

So did I for a while. That said, attacking there with even 50 defense would have been unwise.

[Rolepgeek]

Pretty sure they stack. You can get some pretty crazy defense.

Yep.

This will be used in other games, that's for sure. Might even get used in this one somehow. 200% defense bonus city(Fortress+Mountain) probably means one Pikeman can hold off legions.

[lemon10]

Spoiler: Orangeworld (RangerCado) turn 28 (click to show/hide)

<playerturn player="RangerCado">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="tClaim" x="18" y="3"/>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="1">
      <building code="univ"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="52" x="16" y="11">
      <targetunit unitid="49"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="41"/>
    </armyorgorder>
  </armyorgorders>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="61" x="19" y="6">
      <step dx="0" dy="1"/>
      <step dx="0" dy="1"/>
      <step dx="-1" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="6" x="18" y="9">
      <step dx="-1" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="41" x="16" y="11">
      <step dx="-1" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="conq" armyid="59" x="6" y="17"/>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>

Yuck. I wasn't aware that he had built a fountain of health there. It sets back my plans to build a iron mine at his capital all the way until he gets 20 inspiration.

[lemon10]

Turn 29

Spoiler: Turn 28 results (click to show/hide)

The Ancoran Tribe:

14 food used to gain 1 free population
Road built at (5,5)
Tile (5,6) claimed
Mana Tap built at (6,0)
Magicians (45) moved to The Ancoran Tribe army 40
Magicians (48) moved to The Ancoran Tribe army 44
Spearmen (56) moved to The Ancoran Tribe army 44
Spearmen (62) moved to The Ancoran Tribe army 44
The Ancoran Tribe army 44 renamed to Magus Gamble
Magus Gamble renamed to The Valcoran Liberators
The Valcoran Liberators renamed to New Dawn
The Ancoran Tribe army 40 renamed to The Shield of Ancora
The Ancoran Tribe army 51 is empty and is disbanded
The Ancoran Tribe army 60 is empty and is disbanded
The Ancoran Tribe army 66 is empty and is disbanded
The Ancoran Tribe army 48 is empty and is disbanded
The Shield of Ancora moves to (4,4)
New Dawn moves to (5,6)


Orangeworld:

18 food used to gain 1 free population
Tile (18,3) claimed
University built in Telorin
Horsemen (49) moved to Orangeworld army 41
Orangeworld army 52 is empty and is disbanded
Orangeworld army 61 moves to (18,9)
Orangeworld army 41 moves to (15,12)
Battle fought at (6,17):
   Frog Catchers attacking (1 units)
   Rag Tag Cavalry B defending (1 units) with defense bonus 25%
   Horse Archers (20) destroyed
   Attackers win
Rag Tag A moves to (17,10)
Conquer (6,17) with army Rag Tag Cavalry B failed: Army already disbanded


Istania:

29 food used to gain 1 free population
30 food used to gain 1 free population
City Meinas built at (23,12)
Tile (24,12) claimed
Road built at (14,18)
Road built at (17,10)
Spearmen raised in Othertown
Spearmen raised in Capitalopolis
Axemen raised in Bordertown
Training Field built in Innertown
Capitalopolis renamed to Ista
Bordertown renamed to Bennel
Othertown renamed to Belline
Belline renamed to Farrum
Innertown renamed to Kerav
Bennel renamed to Bachein
Axemen (63) renamed to Third Axes
Second Axes moved to Istanian National Guard
Grond moved to Istanian National Guard
Istania army 62 disbanded
Istania army 54 disbanded
Istania army 67 moves to (18,18)
Istania army 53 moves to (15,17)
Istania army 63 moves to (18,18)


Boydinia:



Greenland:

26 food used to gain 1 free population
Horse Pasture built at (12,21)
Tile (7,9) claimed
Tile (8,7) claimed
Spearmen raised in Grunwald
Pikemen raised in Utyug Ferma
Training Field built in Yes. Yes I did.
Build Pikemen in Valcoran failed: Insufficient resources available
Greenland army 64 renamed to Frog Catchers
Spearmen (52) moved to The Wild Rovers
Body Boys disbanded
Pikemen (65) moved to The Wild Rovers
Greenland army 69 disbanded
Lancers (42) disbanded
You Didn't See This Coming disbanded
Army Greenland army 71 created
Greenland army 71 renamed to Nuisance
Spearmen (52) moved to Nuisance
Nuisance moves to (15,16)
The Inverted Axes moves to (16,6)
Reservists moves to (7,8)
Dad's Army moves to (14,17)
Battle fought at (6,17):
   Frog Catchers attacking (1 units)
   Rag Tag Cavalry B defending (1 units) with defense bonus 25%
   Horse Archers (20) destroyed
   Attackers win
Na Draoithe has razed your village on (9,7)!


Na Draoithe:

19 food used to gain 1 free population
20 food used to gain 1 free population
Palisade built in Riverton
Pikemen raised in Forstis
Bowmen (61) moved to Riverton Garrison
3rd Swiss moved to Riverton Garrison
4th Swiss moved to Riverton Garrison
Forstis Garrison disbanded
Na Draoithe army 65 disbanded
Bowmen (61) renamed to 1st Archers
Pikemen (66) renamed to 1st Swiss
Na Draoithe army 70 renamed to Forstis Garrison
Na Draoithe First Guard has razed Greenland's village on (9,7)!

Spoiler: Battle Details (click to show/hide)

Battle fought at (6,17):
   Frog Catchers attacking (1 units)
   Rag Tag Cavalry B defending (1 units) with defense bonus 25%

Turn 1
Turn 2
Turn 3
   Horse Archers (20) attacks Spearmen (60) for 1 damage
Turn 4
   Horse Archers (20) attacks Spearmen (60) for 2 damage
Turn 5
   Spearmen (60) attacks Horse Archers (20) but fails to do damage
   Horse Archers (20) attacks Spearmen (60) for 1 damage
Turn 6
   Spearmen (60) attacks Horse Archers (20) for 2 damage
   Horse Archers (20) attacks Spearmen (60) for 2 damage
Turn 7
   Spearmen (60) attacks Horse Archers (20) for 1 damage
   Horse Archers (20) attacks Spearmen (60) but fails to do damage
Turn 8
   Spearmen (60) attacks Horse Archers (20) but fails to do damage
   Horse Archers (20) attacks Spearmen (60) but fails to do damage
Turn 9
   Spearmen (60) attacks Horse Archers (20) for 1 damage
   Horse Archers (20) attacks Spearmen (60) but fails to do damage
Turn 10
   Spearmen (60) attacks Horse Archers (20) for 2 damage
   Horse Archers (20) attacks Spearmen (60) for 1 damage
Turn 11
   Spearmen (60) attacks Horse Archers (20) for 1 damage
   Horse Archers (20) attacks Spearmen (60) but fails to do damage
Turn 12
   Spearmen (60) attacks Horse Archers (20) for 2 damage
   Horse Archers (20) attacks Spearmen (60) but fails to do damage
Turn 13
   Spearmen (60) attacks Horse Archers (20) for 1 damage
   Horse Archers (20) destroyed
   Attackers win

Damn, that was some bad luck on the part of those horse archers. Not that bad though, I suppose it was stupid of me to risk them there.
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[lemon10]

Spoiler: Orangeworld (RangerCado) turn 29 (click to show/hide)

<playerturn player="RangerCado">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="bRoad" x="19" y="8"/>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="1">
      <unittype code="hmen"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="6">
      <unittype code="hmen"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="16">
      <building code="libr"/>
    </cityorder>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders/>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="41" x="15" y="12">
      <step dx="1" dy="1"/>
      <step dx="0" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="61" x="18" y="9">
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="6" x="17" y="10">
      <step dx="1" dy="0"/>
      <step dx="1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>

((This is assuming that Rangercado doesn't get to post a turn before he leaves, if he does, then this is obviously void)).

[Rolepgeek]

Okay this is getting frankly ridiculous.

If NQT wins purely because of the RNG I'm calling bullshit.

I mean seriously, does it even matter what we do at this point, if he's just gonna win every battle anyway?

Also damnit Lemon10 you forgot the iron mine tile.

Also: I ran test turns with him attacking me. I have nine units on that tile, to his 8, with a 75% defensive bonus.
The first two times I ran the turn, he won. What. The. Fuck. I mean, COME ON. This is getting ridiculous.

Also, where the hell is he getting all these iron units from? I mean, seriously, he has the same iron income as I do, and yet he has craptons of pikemen, all ready to go in the same place. Garr.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

<playerturn player="Rolepgeek">
  <tileorders>
    <tileorder type="bCity" x="17" y="8">
      <cityname>I Dare You</cityname>
    </tileorder>
  </tileorders>
  <cityorders>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="11">
      <building code="libr"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="bBld" cityid="2">
      <building code="found"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="rUnit" cityid="13">
      <unittype code="spear"/>
    </cityorder>
    <cityorder type="addPop" cityid="20"/>
  </cityorders>
  <armyorgorders>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="15" x="15" y="17">
      <targetunit unitid="32"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="53"/>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="53" x="15" y="17">
      <targetunit unitid="50"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="15"/>
    </armyorgorder>
    <armyorgorder type="mUnit" armyid="53" x="15" y="17">
      <targetunit unitid="32"/>
      <secondarmy armyid="15"/>
    </armyorgorder>
  </armyorgorders>
  <armyorders>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="67" x="18" y="18">
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="0" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="72" x="18" y="13">
      <step dx="-1" dy="1"/>
      <step dx="0" dy="1"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="63" x="18" y="18">
      <step dx="-1" dy="0"/>
    </armyorder>
    <armyorder type="mArmy" armyid="73" x="20" y="20">
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
      <step dx="-1" dy="-1"/>
    </armyorder>
  </armyorders>
</playerturn>

[tryrar]

What, role, you forgetting your daily sacrifices to the RNG?

[Rolepgeek]

I sacrifice a d20 every week thank you very much.

I kill it in the cruelest way possible. By grinding away it's corners until it is a sphere. Then I show it to all of my other dice.

And then I say:

"This one failed me."

And then, I set it on a street corner, and let nature takes it course in washing it into the sewers.

[lemon10]

Okay this is getting frankly ridiculous.

If NQT wins purely because of the RNG I'm calling bullshit.

I mean seriously, does it even matter what we do at this point, if he's just gonna win every battle anyway?

Also damnit Lemon10 you forgot the iron mine tile.

Also: I ran test turns with him attacking me. I have nine units on that tile, to his 8, with a 75% defensive bonus.
The first two times I ran the turn, he won. What. The. Fuck. I mean, COME ON. This is getting ridiculous.

Also, where the hell is he getting all these iron units from? I mean, seriously, he has the same iron income as I do, and yet he has craptons of pikemen, all ready to go in the same place. Garr.

Yeah, I forgot to trade it, then promptly edited the turn so that it was traded not a minute later. If you reload it you should see that you now own it again.

Also, he simply has better units there. Half have 'superior equipment' and the others half have experience, plus most of them are metal units. You have barely half metal units on the other hand, and your spearmen and ram are really wimpy even with a defense bonus.

He has so many iron units because he has spend the entire game with two iron tiles, and he recently got a third, whereas you got your first later then he got both his first and second.
Even split nearly in half (for both his southern and northern armies) he had as much to spend as you did.