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Author Topic: What are some good things for a nub to request from a caravan?  (Read 2251 times)

Casei

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Re: What are some good things for a nub to request from a caravan?
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2014, 09:39:08 am »

Moleweasels and Frill Lizards are the cats of Masterwork, they both help get rid of vermin.

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« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2014, 11:33:47 am »

Just wanna throw it out there that "drake" means "male duck" and is not masterwork specific, you can get ducks as livestock from vanilla embark. They also happen to be pretty useless, since turkeys are much better for eggs.
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Re: What are some good things for a nub to request from a caravan?
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2014, 11:37:48 am »

Just wanna throw it out there that "drake" means "male duck" and is not masterwork specific, you can get ducks as livestock from vanilla embark. They also happen to be pretty useless, since turkeys are much better for eggs.

Except not in this context.  Drakes, in MW, are small dragonlets.
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Re: What are some good things for a nub to request from a caravan?
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2014, 11:49:31 am »

Oh, well that's really confusing.
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« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2014, 02:26:14 pm »

You're going to want most of the things that are listed under the miscellaneous tab: trade licenses, crates of metal, boxes of feathers, etc.  Just be aware that they can be obscenely expensive.
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Re: What are some good things for a nub to request from a caravan?
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2014, 02:29:16 pm »

Moleweasels and Frill Lizards are the cats of Masterwork, they both help get rid of vermin.

Doooh I should have grabbed those. Stupid lizards are eating all my food.

I'll make sure to grab some turkeys next time.

Drake usually refers to a dragon in video games, or a rapper around here.

This thread is tremendously useful.
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Re: What are some good things for a nub to request from a caravan?
« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2014, 04:10:32 pm »

I thought one of the things MW did was rebalance the various egg laying creatures so they weren't so broken.
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« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2014, 06:40:48 pm »

I thought one of the things MW did was rebalance the various egg laying creatures so they weren't so broken.

It does, yeah. They spit out far fewer eggs than in vanilla.
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« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2014, 03:49:57 pm »

Definitely get things that you either haven't naturally found, or can't get yourself. I'd suggest some glass in case of a tantrum, and when it comes to animals, just remember these three. Alpacas, cats, and turkeys. These are the most efficient animals in the game, in my opinion. I'd also say that if you start a map with a very high mineral spawnrate, definitely get some steel or steel items, because you're unlikely to make it yourself naturally.
As for selling items, crafting wooden spiked metal balls is so ludicrously broken that you can achieve considerable gains, and walk away with more or less the entire caravan.
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Re: What are some good things for a nub to request from a caravan?
« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2014, 05:23:30 pm »

Anvils are one of the cheapest and best sources of iron and steel, order lots.
I've heard this more than one place, but I thought I saw iron/steel bars are something like half the cost of anvils of the same material (and, of course, require half the charcoal to turn into something else, as anvils have to be melted)... Am I mixing up embark points with trading or something?
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Re: What are some good things for a nub to request from a caravan?
« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2014, 06:43:11 pm »

Anvils are one of the cheapest and best sources of iron and steel, order lots.
I've heard this more than one place, but I thought I saw iron/steel bars are something like half the cost of anvils of the same material (and, of course, require half the charcoal to turn into something else, as anvils have to be melted)... Am I mixing up embark points with trading or something?

Magma Furnace and each anvil = 3 bars. 

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Re: What are some good things for a nub to request from a caravan?
« Reply #26 on: May 24, 2014, 11:45:54 am »

Wait, does the smelter being magma powered affect the melt return rate?
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« Reply #27 on: May 24, 2014, 12:15:29 pm »

For an egg layer, get some Bearded Cavernkeets. You can sheer them for wool. Also the Drakes in MW are shearable, for a more durable leather. Also they are war trainable. For *MOST* of the other animals, look to the Deeper Dwarven Domestication mod, found here.

Meph has fully incorperated that mod into MasterWork.
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« Reply #28 on: May 24, 2014, 01:14:11 pm »

Wait, does the smelter being magma powered affect the melt return rate?

No, it just doesn't cost you any charcoal... and for some reason I thought Anvils were a 1:1 create/melt rate.  The wiki says no.  I haven't paid that much attention to them in a while, apologies.

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Re: What are some good things for a nub to request from a caravan?
« Reply #29 on: May 25, 2014, 07:05:49 am »

I always order gypsum plaster unless I have gypsum, as that's helpful for proper medical care.

Same here.  It's one of the things that I can almost never produce locally.

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As far as non birds go, I like pigs and dogs.  Dogs are dual purpose since they're trainable, but pigs can be milked, and I like having a cheese making industry.

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I also always buy all their wood, and usually order more, because you can never have enough wood.

Wood from caravans is ludicrously cheap -- like 3 or 4 urists per log (in vanilla).  I always order each type of wood they have available, and buy all that they bring.

In addition to gypsum powder, pigs and wood, I like to order bars of military-grade metals (bronze, iron, steel, etc.), silk thread and cloth (harvesting webs is dangerous work), leather (ridiculously cheap and plentiful compared to local production in vanilla), coal/charcoal, and bolts.  If they bring cheap bolts (plain copper/bronze, or maybe one level of quality) then I'll buy them.  I don't buy the 2400-urist gem-studded silver ones, though.

Obviously any trading plan will depend on what your map has in terms of resources, and what kinds of industries you plan to set up.
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