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[GavJ]

It is extremely bold for you to tell an entire field that they do not agree on this concept.

But taking another field's term, re-defining it as the same general area of meaning intended to refer to the same situations, except the exact opposite, and then telling the field they're wrong about it is totally not bold at all. <--(all of which I accepted, mind you)

Anyway, this is going in the same circles for like the 3rd time, and I can't think of any other ways to say the same things again. I feel like I learned some stuff, so I'm happy. You agree or you don't, gonna just go back to burning elves, personally.

The elves are the ones that are most clearly wrong, no matter what.

[Matt_S]

But taking another field's term, re-defining it as the same general area of meaning intended to refer to the same situations, except the exact opposite, and then telling the field they're wrong about it is totally not bold at all.

I have never once said that psychologists were using any terms wrong, so I'm going to spit out those words that you just put in my mouth.

[hops]

We have always been talking about Spiderman. I have no idea why the author changed the topic name and started discussing curves.

* Objective keeps his hand on the torture dial

[Lyeos]

We have always been talking about Spiderman. I have no idea why the author changed the topic name and started discussing curves.

* Objective keeps his hand on the torture dial

... We've always been at war with Eastasia.

[GavJ]

Okay fine I'm a bold SOB then. All the better for burning elves. Boldness will help me to not stay my hand when the magma lever is in it!

[hops]

We have always been talking about Spiderman. I have no idea why the author changed the topic name and started discussing curves.

* Objective keeps his hand on the torture dial

... We've always been at war with Eastasia.

Tear down these heretical posters of hatred towards our staunch friend, Eurasia!

[Raptomex]

I think it depends more on the individual. It took me about 2 months just to get a Fortress going without any real hiccups.

[Xazo-Tak]

A flame thread up to 13 pages.
We must fix this disgrace by editing any posts we have on here so they contain spiderman pics.

[catpaw]

Batman is much cooler than Spiderman anyway.

[catpaw]

Dependent variables never go on the X axis, in any field, or colloquially.

This is wrong. You should study economics to get some.

The classic price-demand curve is classically printed with price on Y-axis and demand on X-axis. Yes we know it against mathematical custom, but this curves are so much in custom that way around any efforts to change it (there has been one if I recall correctly) failed.

Anyway, then there are curves where both variables are cross dependent anyway like the IS-LM model.

[GavJ]

Dependent variables never go on the X axis, in any field, or colloquially.

This is wrong. You should study economics to get some.

The classic price-demand curve is classically printed with price on Y-axis and demand on X-axis. Yes we know it against mathematical custom, but this curves are so much in custom that way around any efforts to change it (there has been one if I recall correctly) failed.

Anyway, then there are curves where both variables are cross dependent anyway like the IS-LM model.

Price is neither dependent nor independent. It is part of a cyclical dynamic system. Sometimes it reacts (celebrity starts wearing new brand, price spikes overnight), sometimes it causes (like enticing more producers into an inflated price industry). So either way would be equally reasonable. Economists just picked one.

[Witty]

[Matt_S]

Price is neither dependent nor independent. It is part of a cyclical dynamic system. Sometimes it reacts (celebrity starts wearing new brand, price spikes overnight), sometimes it causes (like enticing more producers into an inflated price industry). So either way would be equally reasonable. Economists just picked one.

Price is most certainly independent.  I could open up a store and charge whatever I wanted for my goods.

[GavJ]

Price is neither dependent nor independent. It is part of a cyclical dynamic system. Sometimes it reacts (celebrity starts wearing new brand, price spikes overnight), sometimes it causes (like enticing more producers into an inflated price industry). So either way would be equally reasonable. Economists just picked one.

Price is most certainly independent.  I could open up a store and charge whatever I wanted for my goods.

And I can walk into your store and DEMAND whatever I want for your goods.
So by simply applying your logic here, I guess there must not be any dependent variable, right, since they would both be independent. Thus it does not violate my convention I mentioned earlier. Great, moving on, please...

[Matt_S]

Price is neither dependent nor independent. It is part of a cyclical dynamic system. Sometimes it reacts (celebrity starts wearing new brand, price spikes overnight), sometimes it causes (like enticing more producers into an inflated price industry). So either way would be equally reasonable. Economists just picked one.

Price is most certainly independent.  I could open up a store and charge whatever I wanted for my goods.

And I can walk into your store and DEMAND whatever I want for your goods.
So by simply applying your logic here, I guess there must not be any dependent variable, right, since they would both be independent. Thus it does not violate my convention I mentioned earlier. Great, moving on, please...

1. That's not what demand means.
2. I'm not the one who cares about independent vs dependent variables
3. This isn't the Smartass Olympics.