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[kj1225]

True. And I still have the enlarge person one from my domain.

[Criptfeind]

I'm pretty sure domain spells still need the requisite attribute score.

[kj1225]

Kord dammit.

[Sensei]

In the IC thread, things are happening!

[kj1225]

I have my sheet all the way updated except for my bonus language and description.

[Harbingerjm]

Now now, you should have looked at the tables I linked you.
You're a 1st level Wizard with 15 intelligence. After all of the modifiers, you know 3 1st-level spells, and can cast 3 1st-level spells per day. You also know every cantrip (0-level) and can cast three cantrips per day.

You can see it on your character sheet, you have 1 1st-level spell per day and two bonus 1st-level spells per day. Knowing 3 1st-level spells is just how you start off as a wizard.

Is that a house rule, or am I horribly misreading something?

[Sensei]

The known spells is right in the book:

A wizard begins play with a spellbook containing all 0-level wizard spells (except those her prohibited school or schools, if any; see School Specialization, page 57) plus three 1st-level spells of your choice.

As for his spells per day, a 1st level wizard gets 1 1st-level spell, and his 15 intelligence gives him a bonus 1st and 2nd level spell per day. Of course, he doesn't know any 2nd level spells, so he has to put a 1st level spell in the 2nd level slot. Therefore, 3 1st-level spells per day.

[Harbingerjm]

The known spells is right in the book:

A wizard begins play with a spellbook containing all 0-level wizard spells (except those her prohibited school or schools, if any; see School Specialization, page 57) plus three 1st-level spells of your choice.

Next sentence: "For each point of Intelligence bonus the wizard has (see Table 1–1: Ability Modifiers and Bonus Spells, page , the spellbook holds one additional 1st-level spell of your choice."

As for his spells per day, a 1st level wizard gets 1 1st-level spell, and his 15 intelligence gives him a bonus 1st and 2nd level spell per day. Of course, he doesn't know any 2nd level spells, so he has to put a 1st level spell in the 2nd level slot. Therefore, 3 1st-level spells per day.

You don't actually get the slot until you can cast 2nd level spells, AFAIK.

[Sensei]

The known spells is right in the book:

A wizard begins play with a spellbook containing all 0-level wizard spells (except those her prohibited school or schools, if any; see School Specialization, page 57) plus three 1st-level spells of your choice.

Next sentence: "For each point of Intelligence bonus the wizard has (see Table 1–1: Ability Modifiers and Bonus Spells, page , the spellbook holds one additional 1st-level spell of your choice."

As for his spells per day, a 1st level wizard gets 1 1st-level spell, and his 15 intelligence gives him a bonus 1st and 2nd level spell per day. Of course, he doesn't know any 2nd level spells, so he has to put a 1st level spell in the 2nd level slot. Therefore, 3 1st-level spells per day.

You don't actually get the slot until you can cast 2nd level spells, AFAIK.

So you are right! He gets a couple extra spells. You definitely DO get your 2nd level bonus slot, though.

[GiglameshDespair]

so would soerceror get bonus lvl 1 friom bonus 2

[Sensei]

so would soerceror get bonus lvl 1 friom bonus 2

Yep. Or rather, he'd get a 2nd level spell slot, but only have 1st-level spells to use it with. Same difference though.

Edit: Also, y'all, remember to read the IC thread. The game is happening!

[kj1225]

I'm so jealous of everyone who can use their spells right now.

[lawastooshort]

So, er, I don't know how to wizard. I could use up a whole spell and cast sleep at the two together? Or just shoot them with my crossbow. It seems a waste to use a spell when I have only 3.

[Harbingerjm]

So, er, I don't know how to wizard. I could use up a whole spell and cast sleep at the two together? Or just shoot them with my crossbow. It seems a waste to use a spell when I have only 3.

First off, hobgoblins are human+ sized, so barring an unusually tiny hobgoblin, even if your diplomacy attempt succeeds, the "shoot the hobgoblin in the face" plan is still probably pretty good.
Second, spell usage can be a bit finicky, and depends on things like how often you'll be in combat encounters between rest periods, how reliant you are out-of-combat on utility spells, party composition/capabilities, how likely you think the enemies are to make their saves (if any) and more. You'll get the hang of it with practice, but particularly when starting a new campaign with a new DM it can rquire a fair amount of trial-and-error.
One thing to take into account is you're a decent Int character and an inexperienced player, so try asking the GM what your character would know about the situation/enemy. This is the kind of thing Knowledge skills come in handy for, by the way.

Personally I probably wouldn't use a Sleep spell here unless either they grouped close enough to hit them all, I was sure there wasn't going to be much at all in the way of difficult fights before rest, or I had some particular in-character reason (such as making a strong first impression), but I am somewhat conservative when it comes to resource allocation and do have a tendancy to be more stingy than I should be from an efficiency or even safety standpoint, so a fairly large pinch of salt there.

[lawastooshort]

Thank you very much. I thought a spell would not be best, but I did consider the IC wanting to impress my fellow feeble midgets thing. Hopefully Derek won't die before I get the hang of wizarding.