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Re: RedKing's East Asian Politics Megathread
« Reply #60 on: April 26, 2014, 07:52:43 am »

>Not listing the Philippines in OP.

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« Reply #61 on: April 30, 2014, 10:35:26 pm »

Bumping thread to add this item:

Terrorist Attack in Xinjiang kills 3, injures 79.

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« Reply #62 on: April 30, 2014, 10:53:36 pm »

That's what they get for taking away the guns.
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« Reply #63 on: April 30, 2014, 10:58:02 pm »

That's pretty impressive, actually.
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« Reply #64 on: May 14, 2014, 02:41:18 pm »

Quick update:

In the last week, a Chinese oil drilling rig began construction in a portion of the South China Sea claimed by both the PRC and Vietnam. When Vietnamese Coast Guard vessels attempted to interfere, the Chinese vessels rammed them and/or doused them with high-pressure water cannons.

In retaliation today, Vietnamese protesters torched and vandalized at least 15 factories thought to be Chinese-owned (and several that were apparently Taiwanese or South Korean-owned as well).
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« Reply #65 on: May 14, 2014, 03:14:27 pm »

Maybe agree to share the profits from the land that is claimed by China and Vietnam? Probably wouldn't work politically though.
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« Reply #66 on: May 14, 2014, 03:18:21 pm »

Yeeaaahh... I rather imagine that would entail accepting that the other party has some degree of legitimate claim to the land, which... isn't something you see happen in contested land claims.
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« Reply #67 on: May 14, 2014, 03:21:10 pm »

I suppose the best solution would be to divide said contested territory exactly in half. But then again, people will just argue where that exactly half point is.
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« Reply #68 on: May 14, 2014, 03:39:59 pm »

"Okay, I'll take the half with the oil, and you can have the other half."

Until oil/gold/unobtanium is discovered in that half. Then they'll claim that half too, agreement be damned.

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« Reply #69 on: May 16, 2014, 04:29:53 am »

I have yet to see it in person, but now that I'm in Taiwan I've learned that the student protestors are more or less blockading the sitting government until they resend their plans to pass a bill that will give the PRC economic dominion over Taiwan at the latter's expense. Working in shifts and everything. Might see it when we visit Taipei in a few days.
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« Reply #70 on: May 16, 2014, 07:13:12 am »

My stance on Taiwanese politics is to support the Pan-Green Coalition in securing Taiwanese independence. I know of course that this would lead to conflict with China, but the current system simply cannot go on.
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« Reply #71 on: May 16, 2014, 07:55:04 am »

Which party in Taiwan classifies as Green? The DPP?
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« Reply #72 on: May 16, 2014, 07:59:05 am »

Which party in Taiwan classifies as Green? The DPP?

Democratic Progressive Party (DPP), Taiwan Solidarity Union (TSU), Taiwan Independence Party (TAIP), Taiwan Constitution Association (TCA). There is also the Green Party in Taiwan but they're associated with Global Greens/Asia-Pacific Greens Federation, not the Pan-Green Coalition.
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« Reply #73 on: May 16, 2014, 11:24:49 am »

I think it's "Green" because the others are Blue.

Edit: Though apparently Green was chosen in part because of the environmental parties. Huh. Welp.
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« Reply #74 on: May 16, 2014, 01:57:56 pm »

Which party in Taiwan classifies as Green? The DPP?

Democratic Progressive Party (DPP), Taiwan Solidarity Union (TSU), Taiwan Independence Party (TAIP), Taiwan Constitution Association (TCA). There is also the Green Party in Taiwan but they're associated with Global Greens/Asia-Pacific Greens Federation, not the Pan-Green Coalition.

That's an interesting coalition. The DPP has moderated its stance over the last decade and includes the lovely Jedi mind trick that while they're in favor of independence, Taiwan is already de facto independent and therefore there is no need to declare independence. That's a stance that the PRC has shown being able to live with.

The TSU on the other hand, is ardently in favor of declaring independence and waving it Beijing's face like a pair of dirty socks.





While it's somewhat outside the "East Asia" sphere, I think it's hugely important to the region that the Congress Party is about to lose power in India.

While I don't think it's good for any party (or family) to have a stranglehold on power for decades (PRI in Mexico, KMT in Taiwan, Congress Party and the Gandhis in India, etc.) I'm also very much not a fan of the BJP. I think they might do a better job for India's economy in the short-term, but I worry about minority rights and their foreign policy.

 
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