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Melting Sky

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Dragon Fire Targetting
« on: April 22, 2014, 01:08:48 pm »
I have a dragon I have been meaning to put to work for a while now and one thing I would love to know before I build him a nice flamethrower bunker is if his breath weapon can target enemies that are on different Z levels or if it is a strictly lateral blast.
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Re: Dragon Fire Targetting
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2014, 01:29:08 pm »
Previous science has shown that dragons can only target creatures that are on the same level as they.
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Re: Dragon Fire Targetting
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2014, 01:31:30 pm »
Thanks, I had a suspicion this may be the case. I'll just have to build my dragon bunker with this in mind.
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Re: Dragon Fire Targetting
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2014, 05:21:03 pm »
Something that makes the enemies come up a ramp head on into the dragon will work most effectively. Put him opposite a tame giant cave spider for MAXIMUM effectiveness.

D# . #S
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Would probably work the best.
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2014, 09:13:59 pm »
 8)  I have a few fun designs in mind. Since the dragon is primarily going to be there as an amusing diversion I am going to turn the whole thing into an overly elaborate spectacle with draw bridge blast shutters and such. I'm even going to try and get magma involved if I can. Are dragons magma proof?
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Re: Dragon Fire Targetting
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2014, 09:41:26 pm »
Dragons are not magma proof. AS FAR AS I KNOW.

They also can't fly.
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2014, 09:47:23 pm »
I was aware of their lack of flight but its a shame their fire immunity doesn't extend to magma. Oh well, magma would have been rather redundant anyway.
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Re: Dragon Fire Targetting
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2014, 10:01:23 am »
Quote from: FrankMcFuzz on April 22, 2014, 09:41:26 pm
Dragons are not magma proof. AS FAR AS I KNOW.

Dragons are definitely magmaproof. They have the [FIREIMMUNE_SUPER] tag, which includes [FIREIMMUNE], which is what fire imps, magma crabs etc. have.
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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2014, 11:39:43 am »
Quote from: Button on April 23, 2014, 10:01:23 am
Quote from: FrankMcFuzz on April 22, 2014, 09:41:26 pm
Dragons are not magma proof. AS FAR AS I KNOW.

Dragons are definitely magmaproof. They have the [FIREIMMUNE_SUPER] tag, which includes [FIREIMMUNE], which is what fire imps, magma crabs etc. have.
I can attest to this, having had one come back up out of a volcanic caldera after I'd let my guard down due to having knocked the beast in with archery and written it off.
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Re: Dragon Fire Targetting
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2014, 06:13:19 pm »
Quote from: Melting Sky on April 22, 2014, 01:08:48 pm
I have a dragon I have been meaning to put to work for a while now and one thing I would love to know before I build him a nice flamethrower bunker is if his breath weapon can target enemies that are on different Z levels or if it is a strictly lateral blast.

Both. More accurately, your dragon will *target* enemies on a different z-level and breathe fire at them, but the fire is constrained to the dragon's z-level. This can actually be useful, enabling you to encourage your dragon to breathe fire in a specific direction to roast enemies without line-of-sight for return fire, or simply incinerate your garbage.
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Re: Dragon Fire Targetting
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2014, 07:19:21 pm »
 :D  Excellent!
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Re: Dragon Fire Targetting
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2014, 07:35:23 pm »
Quote from: Loci on April 23, 2014, 06:13:19 pm
Quote from: Melting Sky on April 22, 2014, 01:08:48 pm
I have a dragon I have been meaning to put to work for a while now and one thing I would love to know before I build him a nice flamethrower bunker is if his breath weapon can target enemies that are on different Z levels or if it is a strictly lateral blast.

Both. More accurately, your dragon will *target* enemies on a different z-level and breathe fire at them, but the fire is constrained to the dragon's z-level. This can actually be useful, enabling you to encourage your dragon to breathe fire in a specific direction to roast enemies without line-of-sight for return fire, or simply incinerate your garbage.

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Re: Dragon Fire Targetting
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2014, 09:47:15 pm »
but apparently they can drown in magma, so 7/7 magma is not welcome.
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Re: Dragon Fire Targetting
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2014, 05:06:00 pm »
Quote from: FrankMcFuzz on April 22, 2014, 05:21:03 pm
Something that makes the enemies come up a ramp head on into the dragon will work most effectively. Put him opposite a tame giant cave spider for MAXIMUM effectiveness.

D# . #S
## . ##
. .  . . .
. .  . . .
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. . g . .
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^^^^^

Would probably work the best.

Uh the two topmost fortifications in that image should definitely be WALLS, not fortifications (the ones facing each other). Unless you enjoy *Giant Cave Spider Roast*
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Re: Dragon Fire Targetting
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2014, 05:20:39 am »
Quote from: GavJ on April 25, 2014, 05:06:00 pm
Quote from: FrankMcFuzz on April 22, 2014, 05:21:03 pm
Something that makes the enemies come up a ramp head on into the dragon will work most effectively. Put him opposite a tame giant cave spider for MAXIMUM effectiveness.

D# . #S
## . ##
. .  . . .
. .  . . .
. .  . . .
. . g . .
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^^^^^

Would probably work the best.

Uh the two topmost fortifications in that image should definitely be WALLS, not fortifications (the ones facing each other). Unless you enjoy *Giant Cave Spider Roast*

It's not Dwarf Fortress without gross oversights.
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