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How obligated do you feel you are to help others?

Extremely obligated.
- 13 (12.9%)
Very obligated
- 21 (20.8%)
Moderately obligated.
- 23 (22.8%)
Slightly obligated.
- 12 (11.9%)
No obligation.
- 23 (22.8%)
Trash option for snarky answers.
- 9 (8.9%)

Total Members Voted: 99


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Re: How obligated do you feel you are to help others?
« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2014, 07:43:10 am »

Not at all. I do it for the feeling of superiority.
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Re: How obligated do you feel you are to help others?
« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2014, 10:40:09 am »

Not at all. I do it for the feeling of superiority.

Heh, pretty much that.

I think the question is pretty pointless, since I think there's zero difference between some of those who picked 'Extremely Obligated' and 'Not at all' options. In most cases 'want' and 'feel obliged to' are just different descriptions of that which causes you to go help someone when you see they need help.

So, for it to be accurate you'd need a matrix of 'obligated, not obligated' and 'want, not want'.
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Re: How obligated do you feel you are to help others?
« Reply #32 on: April 19, 2014, 11:37:45 am »

So, for it to be accurate you'd need a matrix of 'obligated, not obligated' and 'want, not want'.
There are probably even more things to consider but I'm just interested in the obligation aspect. Yes some people probably voted based on wants/etc and that skewed the results, but this never was intended to be a really accurate statistical poll.
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Re: How obligated do you feel you are to help others?
« Reply #33 on: April 19, 2014, 11:45:56 am »

Yeah, it would be nice to have a clear distinction between "obligated to help others" and "actually help others". I put strongly obligated, because anything else is tantamount to saying "My needs are inherently more important than yours", but that doesn't mean I actually follow through on my beliefs.
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Re: How obligated do you feel you are to help others?
« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2014, 11:54:10 am »

in general I like to help people, especially of the cost is marginal.

I dont think I go out of my way to help people, althougth Im fond of private/personal charity and volunteering for them

edit: I voted slightly.  Favors are favors and one hand washes the other.
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Re: How obligated do you feel you are to help others?
« Reply #35 on: April 19, 2014, 12:03:09 pm »

Thinking about it, I don't see any reason why I should help people who aren't me.
In practice, though, in situations where someone needs/wants help I would most likely end up going out of my way to assist them. Not sure if that's a good thing (yay helpful) or a bad thing (because I'm so easily pushed into doing things).

Edit: Oh yeah, I voted Moderately Obliged.
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Re: How obligated do you feel you are to help others?
« Reply #36 on: April 19, 2014, 12:11:05 pm »

Obligated? No. It's not a legal or moral duty for me to help others in my day to day life. At least not in general. It's something I'll do, but not out of a sense that it's something I must do, it's something I choose to do on occasion. Probably more often than I give myself credit for but less often than obligation would demand I do, since I rarely help people outside at least my secondary monkeysphere.

Hmm, if primary secondary and teriary monkeysphere's aren't terms they should be. Probably a breakdown like
Primary => Family and Close Friends
Secondary => Distance friends and colleagues
Tertiary => People in similar geological and/or socio-political area

A rare example of tertiary help would probably be how earlier today I walked past a man who got some grease on his fingers from his bike chain, I offered him a tissue to wipe it off. Don't know him, probably never will see him again, but I had a pack on me so why not?
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Re: How obligated do you feel you are you to help others?
« Reply #37 on: April 19, 2014, 07:59:23 pm »



So if a pregnant women was knocked over, you wouldn't help her up because you pay taxes?
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Re: How obligated do you feel you are to help others?
« Reply #38 on: April 19, 2014, 08:05:20 pm »

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That assumes that government welfare in [your country here] is adequate.  Is it?

also I suppose it means you like the concept.

edit: to be fair anything spent by the gov for collective/niche good would qualify, not just welfare.  Like buses, road maintenance, or affirmative action, VA services.
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Re: How obligated do you feel you are to help others?
« Reply #39 on: April 19, 2014, 08:42:03 pm »

I'm rather moderate about it. I do it because it's right most the time, and other times I don't, I generally can't, or maybe the person doesn't need help and I would just get in their way. Essentially, I put myself in their situation, and think how would I feel if I were helped in that moment in the manner I would help them with?

Just as well, I keep in mind "Do unto others as you would want them to do unto you.", or in other words, treat them as I would expect or want to be treated in the moment. Of course, depending on other circumstances, I do unto others as they have done unto me. Just in case I was helped or hindered in the past, and just payment is due. Caution, I could be a total dick if hindering was a majority factor. But there's an off-chance I would forgive above all, for similar reasons as above, and do right anyway; but still draw a line somewhere, at least to let them be aware they've rubbed me the wrong way before, and this, the forgiveness overrule, won't always happen if it keeps up.

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Re: How obligated do you feel you are you to help others?
« Reply #40 on: April 20, 2014, 03:53:40 am »

So if a pregnant women was knocked over, you wouldn't help her up because you pay taxes?
I'd guess it depends whether or not I'm the one that pushed her over in the first place.

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That assumes that government welfare in [your country here] is adequate.  Is it?

also I suppose it means you like the concept.

edit: to be fair anything spent by the gov for collective/niche good would qualify, not just welfare.  Like buses, road maintenance, or affirmative action, VA services.
My country, Australia, has one of the world's best government subsidized health care systems. We also have wide varieties of unemployment benefits, disability support schemes, and so on. It's part of what makes this country so attractive to the economic refugees that attempt to illegally enter the country, to the point that it's become a hot political debate about how we should handle the problem.
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Re: How obligated do you feel you are to help others?
« Reply #41 on: April 20, 2014, 08:41:34 am »

Naw I'm pretty sure it's more about racism.
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Re: How obligated do you feel you are to help others?
« Reply #42 on: April 20, 2014, 08:48:31 am »

Racism has lost its meaning to me.  Its  a political cliche, and one of the nost commonly misinterpreted terms I can think of.  bleh.  I expect that the illegal immigrants (because :| AP) go to Australia in all colors and cultures?

Id move there, but it doesnt hold any particular attraction to me.
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Re: How obligated do you feel you are to help others?
« Reply #43 on: April 20, 2014, 08:54:45 am »

Racism has lost its meaning to me.  Its  a political cliche, and one of the nost commonly misinterpreted terms I can think of.  bleh.  I expect that the illegal immigrants (because :| AP) go to Australia in all colors and cultures?

Id move there, but it doesnt hold any particular attraction to me.
Are you trying to say that Australia isn't racist? Because it's pretty well known that it is. You get that with a country whose first inhabitants were criminals hunting down the natives.
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Re: How obligated do you feel you are to help others?
« Reply #44 on: April 20, 2014, 09:18:03 am »

Racism shouldnt be the first place we all jump to.   And Im pretty sure that citing its orgins as the primary proof of a flaw is . . . prejudiced.  If you can do that for a country you can do it for a man.
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