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Voting closed: April 17, 2014, 06:39:24 pm

[Loud Whispers]

Besides, Deirdre doesn't mind free market (despite the fact that she cannot use it), she minds pollution that unchecked free market causes. IIRC Green economics is just free market with heavy environmental regulations on top.
It's mostly a matter of priorities: for Deirdre it's 'BE GREEN. Also free enterprise? Sure, as long as it's clean.' and for Morgan it's 'FREE MARKEEET AHOY! ...what? Not raping the earth? Sure, as long as it doesn't limit the industry in the slightest'.

Free market is a free market, and for Morgan it's a total free market - no regulations, no taxation, only profit. For Deidre it's a green economy, where you'll probably have taxes, environmental regulations that increase liability for pollution. Planned economy is to Morgan what communism was to America, and planned economy is to Deidre what China is to the EU. Given the chance, Morgan would probably want to see a free global market stifled by green regulations and Deidre would love to see Morgan's polluting practices annihilated, but the two are generally weak military powers and can both find themselves on the wrong end of an expansionist power like Yang (who rather helpfully tends towards using planned economies).

But FM drops your planet score like a rock, how is Deirdre OK with that? Bx

Desperate alliance

[Imperial Guardsman]

I cant play morganites because I cant fucking play free market. It has -5 police.

[Patchy]

Use probes and probe foils to scout and go green if you have to go to war. -5 police isn't as bad as most people think it is. Annoying yes.

[EuchreJack]

Use probes and probe foils to scout and go green if you have to go to war. -5 police isn't as bad as most people think it is. Annoying yes.

Or, use probes to go to war.  Don't converted troops have no home base?

[Patchy]

I think if they are converted far enough away, otherwise they are automatically homed to your nearest base. It's been a long time and memory is a bit fuzzy in spots, so someone else might be able to answer that better then me.

How far is "far enough" I don't know either.

Though going to war with just probes will probably get you killed. Especially if it is Yang, Santiago, or Miriam whom all like to stack units. And Miriam has the added benefit of being resistant to probes.

[MarcAFK]

No. Don't remember the website name, actually.

It was $2.39 on GOG over the weekend, but I think it's regular price is about 5 bucks.

Edit: I recall having minor stability issues with SMAC on XP or vista, minor in that they were fixable with small changes like turning on compatibility mode, but SMAX would be completely unplayable on vista or 7 untill I installed the gog version.
My laptop also has a small graphical flaw causing a lot of older games to have inverted colours or ghosts unless the desktop was disabled. So I have a batch file which exits explorer.exe then waits with an open window for a key to be pressed before reopening it again.

[Solymr]

Best thing about Morgan is that you don't NEED free market to rake in the cash, Dem/Green/Wealth is a very good setting. Ofc with free market and wealth you'll bring in a shitload of cash if you have a lot of bases.

[Patchy]

Yup, and you'll get wealth values when you finish beelining for supply crawlers. And you are making a point to beeline to them right? They are game breakers.

[EuchreJack]

And you can always just buy your army the turn you're attacked.  For Morgan, that's probably the best strategy.

[MonkeyHead]

PTW, seeing as I have been getting back into this after the "After Earth" announcement.

[Patchy]

Actually, as a big builder type player here. If you wait to build your army till someone is knocking on your door, you're doin it wrong. Against the ai you can do that, but against another player, you're in serious trouble. A builders best friend other than crawlers are clean reactors, abuse them. A builder should have one of the biggest armies out there since they aren't tossing them into numerous wars. Think beehive, disturb it and here comes swarms of military. This is especially true of morgan and any of the pacifistic builder factions, since as a builder you are generally seen as a plump easy target. You better be prepare to prove them wrong.

[Mr. Strange]

Actually, as a big builder type player here. If you wait to build your army till someone is knocking on your door, you're doin it wrong. Against the ai you can do that, but against another player, you're in serious trouble. A builders best friend other than crawlers are clean reactors, abuse them. A builder should have one of the biggest armies out there since they aren't tossing them into numerous wars. Think beehive, disturb it and here comes swarms of military. This is especially true of morgan and any of the pacifistic builder factions, since as a builder you are generally seen as a plump easy target. You better be prepare to prove them wrong.

I second this, I've always used it as middle-end game strategy when it's time to start replacing obsolete units. Only problem is that they are expensive, so you need base with decent production to make them in reasonable time.

[GreatWyrmGold]

... Zealots?

I'm not a fan of theocracies.

Believers.

Exactly. Those were the zealots.

Yup, Cult of Planet is Zealots.  My fault for not clarifying.  I vividly recall being surprised when I saw they actually made it in the game (they die like terran flies in my games).

No! The Bleievers were the zealots!
Wait, I like the Cult of Planet.

Free market is a free market, and for Morgan it's a total free market - no regulations, no taxation, only profit.

Laiezz (sic) faire, they call it.

Planned economy is to Morgan what communism was to America, and planned economy is to Deidre what China is to the EU.

Nice analogy.

Edit: I recall having minor stability issues with SMAC on XP or vista, minor in that they were fixable with small changes like turning on compatibility mode, but SMAX would be completely unplayable on vista or 7 untill I installed the gog version.

Hm. Probably wouldn't play well with Windows 8, either.

Actually, as a big builder type player here. If you wait to build your army till someone is knocking on your door, you're doin it wrong. Against the ai you can do that, but against another player, you're in serious trouble. A builders best friend other than crawlers are clean reactors, abuse them. A builder should have one of the biggest armies out there since they aren't tossing them into numerous wars. Think beehive, disturb it and here comes swarms of military. This is especially true of morgan and any of the pacifistic builder factions, since as a builder you are generally seen as a plump easy target. You better be prepare to prove them wrong.

Builder =/= Rich Guy.
Morgan potentially has the cash to just buy an army whenever he needs it. And that strategy's pretty good; less unit maintenance, more flexibility in where it's placed, and the look you imagine on the AI's face is hilarious.
"This guy's being a prick, and he doesn't even have an army! THIS MEANS WAR!"
"Crap! Where'd that army come from?"
Worked last time I played Civ V...although I was also sending attack helicopters against their hoplites, warriors, and crossbowmen. But yeah, if you're focused on raking in the big bucks rather than on Production, you might as well buy an army when wars start rather than having a big (expensive) standing military...

[scrdest]

It's 'laissez'

[GreatWyrmGold]

Hey, my spelling is bad enough in English. Don't expect my French to be better.
Thanks, by the way.